Texas_OutLaw7 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I'll admit I was wrong. I was upset with the Cooper trade, but that dude is pretty good at football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNBlackFan Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Matts4313 said: I'll admit I was wrong. I was upset with the Cooper trade, but that dude is pretty good at football. And he's only 24 and already elite at creating separation. Dude is going to be great for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Still shouldn't have cost us a 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Still not sold he was worth our first rounder, since I remain pretty convinced that’ll be a Top 15 pick. But I think the notion that he’s not a sizable upgrade on Dez can be put to bed. Dez got absolutely shut down by Ronald Darby last year, who couldn’t guard Cooper last night at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, matt79511 said: Still not sold he was worth our first rounder, since I remain pretty convinced that’ll be a Top 15 pick. But I think the notion that he’s not a sizable upgrade on Dez can be put to bed. Dez got absolutely shut down by Ronald Darby last year, who couldn’t guard Cooper last night at all. It is a bit of a rock, paper, scissors game when it comes to wideouts. Great ones can compensate others maybe not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 Dez had nearly identical stats against the Eagles last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Dez had nearly identical stats against the Eagles last year. 8 for 63 on 17 targets isn’t as nearly identical to 6/75/10 as you might like it to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, matt79511 said: 8 for 63 on 17 targets isn’t as nearly identical to 6/75/10 as you might like it to be It's not near enough of a difference to warrant any absolutes. Dez was hammered most for never topping 100. Lets wait till cooper does it in this offense a few times(or at least once) before we start the "see I told you Dez sucked" rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 I do like Cooper, and even prefer him over Dez. Mostly due to age. But I don't think the difference of talent between Cooper and Dez is enough to make a difference. Both just did it in different ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, DaBoys said: It's not near enough of a difference to warrant any absolutes. Dez was hammered most for never topping 100. Lets wait till cooper does it in this offense a few times(or at least once) before we start the "see I told you Dez sucked" rhetoric. No because it’s not rhetoric. 3.7 yards per target and a 47% catch rate in such a crucial game was an abomination. He was getting bodied out of the back of the end zone by Jalen Mills and alligator arming tight window throws over the middle. He was useless garbage this time last year. Meanwhile 6 for 75 undersells Cooper’s performance seeing as he was open for multiple long TDs last night. Again I know you’d like to think Dez was, but he wasn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atran35 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Cooper is BEAST. Unfortunately, he has an inept QB throwing to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 12 hours ago, DaBoys said: I do like Cooper, and even prefer him over Dez. Mostly due to age. But I don't think the difference of talent between Cooper and Dez is enough to make a difference. Both just did it in different ways. Cooper has yet to show he is as talented as Dez WAS key being was.. so far Cooper is more consistent shows more effort then Dez did AT TIMES last year but it is too early to say. Let’s see how Cooper is for a whoke season. Though I still doubt Cooper can make some of the plays in the ball that Dez did I do think Cooper is a little better route runner though. My main concern about Dez was he checked out a lot last year took plays off when he wasn’t being targeted and got lazy and missed a number of catches he used to routinely make while also being unable to dominate one on one like he used too. Granted I give some blame to Dak not being able to throw the back shoulder fade as well as Romo a little here as well. But Dak did target him a lot giving him a number of chances to make the contested catch And Sure Dez showed flashes of brilliance but also it seemed his teammates or the staff grew tired of his sideline rants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 14 hours ago, matt79511 said: No because it’s not rhetoric. 3.7 yards per target and a 47% catch rate in such a crucial game was an abomination. He was getting bodied out of the back of the end zone by Jalen Mills and alligator arming tight window throws over the middle. He was useless garbage this time last year. Meanwhile 6 for 75 undersells Cooper’s performance seeing as he was open for multiple long TDs last night. Again I know you’d like to think Dez was, but he wasn’t. There is tape all over the internet and posted in here this offseason, of Dez being open last year and not getting the ball, but your revisionist history is fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) How many times was Dez undersold? Again he was a different type of WR than Cooper. Not as much separation but better hands. Cooper ran a fly route up the sideline Sunday and Dak over threw him by about 5 yards. Cooper just kinda looked at it. I couldn't help but think Dez would have dove for that. Back in the day anyway. I'll say again, I prefer Cooper to 30 year old injured Dez, but the team isn't better with 24 year old Cooper, than they were with 27 and 28 year old Dez. Dak the passer is the problem. Edited November 13, 2018 by DaBoys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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