Matts4313 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 hours ago, riceman80 said: Can't pay a younger HOFer and DPOY 20 mil a year but we can pay a RB who hasnt played in a year 15+ mil? Sounds like GM logic...of the Chucky kind Ignoring draft picks altogether? Sounds like the logic...... of the FF kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 https://www.theduel.com/posts/6225736-le-veon-bell-s-free-agent-contract-demands-were-just-revealed $17m/yr + $45m GTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 He's looking for too much money. It more comes down to who's willing to come to pay him closest to what he wants. Need isn't a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I think we're out. We don't offer the guarantees he wants. We don't use signing bonuses. There's no way we're gonna pay him ~$40M in the first two years of his contract. Because that's how we structure our contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Ignoring draft picks altogether? Sounds like the logic...... of the FF kind. Just think. When Oakland drafts two future HoFers with the picks they got from Mack, they can flip those guys for FOUR first round picks. Then, when they draft four more HoFers with those picks, they can flip them for EIGHT first round picks. Rinse and repeat. It's full proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/15/2018 at 10:48 AM, Matts4313 said: When your QB is on a 2nd round rookie contract, that is the EXACT time you sign people and make a run. We still don't know how this story ends - we've seen teams go all in with a rookie QB, sometimes it works and sometime it doesn't. The Rams are the most recent case study for us, and the 7-1 record indicate it's working, but we still have some football left to play. On 11/15/2018 at 10:49 AM, Broncofan said: More importantly, I don't think HOU will get into a bidding war with the highest bidder. It's doesn't seem like McNair's style AFAIK, no? Correct - if anything, the MO is to find value guys can spending over the top (skipping on Trumaine Johnson and Malcolm Butler for Aaron Colvin, going to Zach Fulton instead of Andrew Norwell). Honey Badger is an exception in the Gaine era - and at 1/$7mm, not exactly breaking out the Brinks truck for that sort of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 HOU. If they sign LeVeon and hire any coach not named Bill O Brien they will at a bare minimum make the AFCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigInBoys Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 Quote This sets up a brewing battle between the NFL's management council and the NFL Players Association in a potentially precedent-setting case over Bell's future, a case that likely will be decided by an arbitrator, according to league sources. The management council believes the Steelers will be able to use a $9.5 million transition tag on Bell this offseason that would give Pittsburgh the chance to match any offer sheet that the Pro Bowl running back signs with another team. The council believes the $9.5 million salary should be based on his salary this year, which Bell forfeited by not reporting. But the NFLPA believes that the transition tag must be $14.54 million -- which would be 120 percent of Bell's salary from the last franchise tag that he played under in 2017. Quote The management council believes the Steelers will be able to use a $9.5 million transition tag on Bell this offseason that would give Pittsburgh the chance to match any offer sheet that the Pro Bowl running back signs with another team. The council believes the $9.5 million salary should be based on his salary this year, which Bell forfeited by not reporting. But the NFLPA believes that the transition tag must be $14.54 million -- which would be 120 percent of Bell's salary from the last franchise tag that he played under in 2017. The NFLPA will argue, as it states in the collective bargaining agreement, that Bell's tag would be based off the prior year's "negotiated" contract. But there were no negotiations for the $14.54 million franchise tag that was applied to Bell this season, which has opened the door to this discrepancy. Quote But Bell also could win by losing. Some sources believe he is more likely to land an offer sheet from another team if the Steelers are allowed to tag him at $9.5 million rather than the $14.54 million that the NFLPA will be demanding. Conversely, while Bell's absence might end up hurting the Steelers this season, it helps them next season. The Steelers are allowed to carry over the $14.54 million in salary-cap space they had attached to Bell's franchise tag and apply it to their cap as a credit for next season -- and that is their plan, according to league sources. "It's a beautiful thing," one source familiar with the Steelers' thinking told ESPN. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25310615/leveon-bell-pittsburgh-steelers-made-late-pushes-deal-rb-case-set-labor-precedent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Ignoring draft picks altogether? Sounds like the logic...... of the FF kind. Trusting Gruden to cash in on those draft picks and thinking the value of the Mack trade was any less than trash. Also sounds like FF logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Weong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 First of all, I want to comment on one major thing that both NFL Fans and NFL Media (especially the idiotic Bucky Brooks) continue to get wrong. We won't miss Le'Veon Bell this season, we won't be a worse team without him because he hasn't been here all season, he hasn't been with the team since the last football season. We have gotten where we are now without him, we have achieved more in the running game without him this year than we did last season with him. Secondly I'd be really surprised to see a lot of GMs jumping to pay up to Bell's demands because if they do, then more players will take upon this tactic in the future. It only takes one team to suggest Bell was right, even though conventional logic says he's not, especially if he ends up signing with a team only to realize he isn't remotely in NFL condition and ends up on IR because his body can't hack it. I'd be surprised to see him get grossly more than what we offered him. I know people like to pretend we low-balled him but this is a guy that has been injured multiple times including one major injury as well as multiple suspensions. As good as he is, James Conner has been more efficient within our offense this year than nearly every other year Bell has been in our offense. Bell is a guy that, despite how great he can be, is relatively easily replaceable. Even DeAngelo Williams proved that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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