wackywabbit Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 No he shouldn't. That money is worth a lot more to him than to the Cowboys. Cap space does not win championships. A difference of even $10M out of a soon to be $200M cap does not drastically alter a teams ability to contend, but that's a huge pay cut for a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, RuskieTitan said: Sorry but silly threads deserve silly responses. The only QB to actively leave money on the table happens to be married to a supermodel with a net worth of $400 million. There is absolutely no way and no reason for players not to maximize their worth. Especially for something as silly as "well I guess I'm not quite as good as the absolute elites so I should take less..." Are you sure you are right? most of the teams with mega bucks QBs suck. Teams win superbowls not QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, Kiwibrown said: Are you sure you are right? most of the teams with mega bucks QBs suck. Teams win superbowls not QBs Yes I'm sure. I agree with you, it's a team effort. Which is why its retarded to think that by saving Dallas $7-10 million, that they: 1. Spend that money anyway on a FA, 2. Actually bring in someone worthwhile at that price range, 3. That said player ends up being the difference between the team winning a Super Bowl or not Every player will say they want to win ships for the franchise. But when it comes to contracts, they know they are setting up their family for life, and have a limited window of opportunity to do so. To claim he should take less because he recognizes he's not as good as the top elites is frankly one of the most laughable things I've read in NFL Gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Would you take 25%-33% less at a dangerous, short term position that has long term health repercussions but no pension or benefits? Nah, he should get his money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, RuskieTitan said: But when it comes to contracts, they know they are setting up their family for life, and have a limited window of opportunity to do so I don't disagree, but I do think we're reaching a new normal (mostly thanks to Brady) in that the next generation of elite QBs WILL be judged on how much they leave on the table to help field a complete team. It's not like the only source of revenue for these guys is their contracts - there is significant endorsement money to be had, post playing careers in the booth, etc. The top tier guys? They're gonna get their "Discount Double Check" money and that branding only grows when they are able to flash SB rings. I know it's a counter-intuitive view, but that's how I'm reading the tea leafs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0LTSFAN4L1F3 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Calvert28 said: Certainly worked for Brady to not demand top dollar. Brady uncoincidentally wouldnt make the most money in his own family even IF HE DID take top dollar that the market has to offer. Brady wasn't going to be the breadwinner of that family regardless, so I don't think he cares quite as much. I'm pretty sure Dak doesn't have that same luxury. Let's say he does take less money. The Cowboys at the absolute best would only become marginally better with an extra 7-10M of cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 When you play a sport where one play can end your career, you take as much as you can while you can. It's not a selfish move - it's the responsible one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncofan48 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Instead of asking why a player should take a paycut (which they shouldn't), I'm more curious about if teams keep winning on team friendly QB deals, Brady included, when the market will slightly reset for QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 You take all of the money that you can, screw the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotsheatyan Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 If someone is that selfless, I’m guessing that some charity could use the money more than the Cowboys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 he should get as much as he can because it might not be there tommorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0LTSFAN4L1F3 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, NJerseypaint said: When you play a sport where one play can end your career, you take as much as you can while you can. It's not a selfish move - it's the responsible one. Not only that, but he should take as much money as he can for getting his body beat to **** for years. There's a reason Arian Foster said if he could have done it over again, he wouldn't have played football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, ET80 said: 42 minutes ago, RuskieTitan said: But when it comes to contracts, they know they are setting up their family for life, and have a limited window of opportunity to do so I don't disagree, but I do think we're reaching a new normal (mostly thanks to Brady) in that the next generation of elite QBs WILL be judged on how much they leave on the table to help field a complete team. It's not like the only source of revenue for these guys is their contracts - there is significant endorsement money to be had, post playing careers in the booth, etc. The top tier guys? They're gonna get their "Discount Double Check" money and that branding only grows when they are able to flash SB rings. I know it's a counter-intuitive view, but that's how I'm reading the tea leafs. The counter argument to that view perspective is, how many of those guys were leaving money on the table before they won a Super Bowl, and had an opportunity to cash in (or cut some savings) on their next contract? A lot easier to Discount Double Check when you already have a ring. Otherwise, it's the Bradford all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Let's be clear about the impact here. You are asking a QB to take a 33% pay cut so that his team has the cap space to give him a player who costs the same as Donte Moncrief did last offseason (10M cap hit). If the cap goes up, as expected, move further down the free agent rankings. The odds of that cap space making a championship level difference vs the 100% likelihood of losing 10M a year for 5 years makes this a ridiculous ask for a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 There is no player in any sport that should purposefully take less money than the billionaires paying them can possibly pay them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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