Doc Draper Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 if we draft him we should call him Muggsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5'10 1/16 207 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog44 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: 5'10 1/16 207 lbs. 9 1/2 inch hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: 5'10 1/16 207 lbs. Really thick socks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I’m hopeful Kyler Murray goes in the top 10 so it pushes somebody else down the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, bigdog44 said: 9 1/2 inch hands For reference , Russell Wilson 10 1/4, Bridgewater 9 1/4, Wentz 10, Sanchez 10 1/2 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, RSkinGM said: For reference , Russell Wilson 10 1/4, Bridgewater 9 1/4, Wentz 10, Sanchez 10 1/2 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, MikeT14 said: 5'10 1/16 207 lbs. 1/16th of an inch? Really? The NFL is really trying to help Murray out to get him a fraction. As best as I can recall, the previous fractions were always 1/8" at the smallest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, Woz said: 1/16th of an inch? Really? The NFL is really trying to help Murray out to get him a fraction. As best as I can recall, the previous fractions were always 1/8" at the smallest. It is 1/8, not 1/16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, e16bball said: It is 1/8, not 1/16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 38 minutes ago, e16bball said: It is 1/8, not 1/16. All in for the Season Opener !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Anyone old enough to remember the Andy Griffith show where Barney had to meet a height and weight number to keep his job? Funny show ! They put him in a stretch device to hang by his neck to get him half inch taller and used a chain around his neck for his deputy tags -big enough to hold King Kong . ( Hidden under his shirt of course ! ) He passed-- I think thar may be some shenanigans here too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, RSkinGM said: Anyone old enough to remember the Andy Griffith show where Barney had to meet a height and weight number to keep his job? Funny show ! They put him in a stretch device to hang by his neck to get him half inch taller and used a chain around his neck for his deputy tags -big enough to hold King Kong . ( Hidden under his shirt of course ! ) He passed-- I think thar may be some shenanigans here too! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of something like that or this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 59 minutes ago, RSkinGM said: Anyone old enough to remember the Andy Griffith show where Barney had to meet a height and weight number to keep his job? Funny show ! They put him in a stretch device to hang by his neck to get him half inch taller and used a chain around his neck for his deputy tags -big enough to hold King Kong . ( Hidden under his shirt of course ! ) He passed-- I think thar may be some shenanigans here too! Sorry not old enough. Sounds painful though lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 This is one of the trickier calls in recent memory for me. I know I wouldn’t trade up for Murray. The issue is whether I’d take him if he was on the board at 15 (which I doubt he will be). On one hand, he just finished what was probably the best statistical QB season in the history of college football. Just on his passing alone, it was arguably the best ever documented — and then he added 1000 rushing yards on top of that. It was a better season than Mayfield ever had there prior to becoming a seemingly worthy #1 pick. And he did it without Mark Andrews and Rodney Anderson (who, incidentally, I think is a beast and we should draft). On the other hand, the red flags with this guy are numerous. The baseball thing. The height thing. The weight thing. The Air Raid QB thing. The running QB thing. The “you played with elite talent at almost every position” thing. Without knowing him, everything I’m about to say is complete and total speculation. Actually getting to know him, meeting him, grilling him in the interview and on the white board — that’s something we as fans never get a chance to do. But my biggest concern with him comes down to intangibles. And I have no reason to believe he’s a bad kid, or not a good leader/teammate/student of the game. He’s probably all those things. But with a real disadvantage, like his size is, I think he needs more than “good” intangibles to become an NFL franchise QB. The two most recent QBs who saw major draft questions about their height — Mayfield and Russell Wilson — had very different paths to the NFL than Murray has had. They had to overcome a ton of obstacles just to get on anybody’s radar for the NFL. No one wanted them or believed in them. In different ways (brash and defiant versus cool and unflappable), their entire personas developed out of their constant battles to overcome doubters and adversity. Murray, on the other hand, was the National Recruit of the Year. He got offers from top programs in every corner of the country. He was a top 10 baseball draft pick and got handed a $4M signing bonus while he was still in college. He transferred out of A&M when things didn’t start well for him. Went to Oklahoma and eventually stepped into a great environment for him to succeed, and he killed it instantly. Wins a Heisman trophy and will be a top NFL draft pick as well. The game is going to be more difficult for him than it is for other (bigger) QBs. Especially ones who have more experience in pro-style schemes. Guys like Mayfield and Wilson have been able to take on that challenge and succeed. But they’ve been doing that their whole lives. Will the same be true for the 5-star recruit, baseball star, instant Heisman winner? It wasn’t for our previous 1st round QB, who — while I loved him — did not handle adversity well. When everything has come easy for you, it’s difficult to develop that ability to respond by fighting and grinding more than anybody else when things start to get really, really hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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