5x10 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Why don’t they bring in any competition with Dak? That’s what drives me nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, 5x10 said: Why don’t they bring in any competition with Dak? That’s what drives me nuts Why dont they bring in competition for Tom Brady? @plan9misfit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northland Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 44 minutes ago, 5x10 said: Why don’t they bring in any competition with Dak? That’s what drives me nuts Bring in a veteran back up. No threat but as an insurance policy should Dak get hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted June 2, 2019 Author Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) I am definitely a Dak supporter. Having said that I wanted to get a talented QB via the draft of FA someone more capable than what we have after Dak for various reasons. truth is we have a lots of holes to fill and can't couldn't fill them all. like a real starting SS/FS instead of Heath.. Edited June 2, 2019 by resilient part 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Definitely don’t pay him before the season starts. See if he has the best season of his career this year. I probably wouldn’t end up paying 30M a year for Dak.. but the Cowboys most likely will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I wouldn't pay him before the season started. Most pro-Dak guys thought/hoped he would already be paid by now. If he doesn't improve under Moore then I'm not paying him. I'll franchise him twice and let him walk if he never improves. We have drafted two guards in the top 3 rounds, fired our OL coach, cut our franchise's all time best WR, traded a first for an elite young WR, hired Dak friendly WRs in FA, drafted Gallup, signed Cobb, fired Scott Linehan.... all just to fix our passing game. Which has sucked for 3 years now. There is no one else to blame but Dak if he can't come through now, and I said that last off season. Now after more firings and signings made to tailor the offense towards Dak, it is especially true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) Amari played 6 games with Carr last season and went over 100 yards twice. Amari played 11 games with Dak and went over 100 yards 3 times. If you include playoffs. Otherwise it was twice in 9 games. The more you know... Edited June 3, 2019 by DaBoys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, DaBoys said: Amari played 6 games with Carr last season and went over 100 yards twice. Amari played 11 games with Dak and went over 100 yards 3 times. If you include playoffs. Otherwise it was twice in 9 games. The more you know... Those stats can be misleading. How many times was he targeted? How many yards after the catch? Edited June 3, 2019 by TVScout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 48 minutes ago, TVScout said: Those stats can be misleading. How many times was he targeted? How many yards after the catch? Not sure how that would change the number of games he went over 100. When he was targeted in Oakland he produced. When he wasn't targeted he didn't. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CoopAm00/gamelog/2018/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, D82 said: Daks 2018 NFL rankings: Time To Throw: 10th Average Intended Air Yards: 25th Average Completed Air Yards: 26th Average Air Yards Differential: 21st Aggressiveness Percentage: 30th Longest Completed Air Distance: 30th Air Yards to the Sticks: 29th Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt: 19th https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#max-completed-air-distance https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/passing.htm I would pick and choose your battles wisely in regards to Dak. Stick with his leadership abilities, rushing abilities, and durability. Because trying to make him out to be a bomber with the football goes against the eyeball test and every stat sheet you can google. Edited June 4, 2019 by DaBoys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 4 hours ago, DaBoys said: Daks 2018 NFL rankings: Time To Throw: 10th Average Intended Air Yards: 25th Average Completed Air Yards: 26th Average Air Yards Differential: 21st Aggressiveness Percentage: 30th Longest Completed Air Distance: 30th Air Yards to the Sticks: 29th Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt: 19th https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#max-completed-air-distance https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/passing.htm I would pick and choose your battles wisely in regards to Dak. Stick with his leadership abilities, rushing abilities, and durability. Because trying to make him out to be a bomber with the football goes against the eyeball test and every stat sheet you can google. Although what you are saying in terms of ranking is correct, you do realize that in absolute numbers what D82 said is also correct. Dak was lumped with Brady, Wentz, Big Ben and the rest of the "top 10 QBs". He was .1 behind on some stats, .1 above in others, but they were all grouped together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Dak was credited with 27 self pressures. Thats about 1/2 of Mahommes. Not surprisingly, the top of the list are young/mobile QBs and play extenders like ARod and Big Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Actually I think your stats are wrong @DaBoys. I just looked at aggressiveness and he is 10th. Other stats, like the longest complete pass, seem like a silly measure as a pro or con. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I think no matter the numbers it is easy to use eye test and say is Not the pure passer of some of his peers. That doesn’t mean he is a terrible passer either just slightly middle of the road where he makes up for it is he rarely makes mistakes or throws high risk passes thus he rarely turns it over which fits well with our mostly running first offense built around the best back in football. The other part of this is Dak is a better then average of not elite runner himself which helps as teams will try to avoid playing man to man. The other part is Dak is real good at crunch time part of this is I think Jason allows him to run more which losses up his game allows him to play freely rather then with breaks own. In my mind Dak has shown he can make all the throws he also has shown he can miss some throws really badly. In time as he gets more experience and continues to improve his foot work I feel the good throws will increase the bad throws decrease. And I hope also JG continues to limit Dak running between the 20’s to help keep him from getting hurt. I think it is a forgone conclusion at this point he will get extended. I just want to see it closer to 28-9 rather then 31. And about giving a discount rarely do FA give discounts on the first big contract. It is the second or restructuring that they give breaks to help sign others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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