Thelonebillsfan Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 His cousin almsot cost him a million bucks throwing up and in like he's Nolan effing Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said: His cousin is so bad, cost him the derby Nope. If he loses he cost himself by picking him. Can't blame a guy for not being good. Blame the guy that selected someone who wasn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 If Vlad wasn't totally spent he wins this. Hopefully these guys are in next year and can actually have a real battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowledge Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said: His cousin is so bad, cost him the derby LOL WHUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, Knowledge said: LOL WHUT He won it despite him, it came way closer than it should have with a dude who couldn't throw a ball straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Dascha Polanco lawd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Texansfan713 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 simone biles doing her best kyle schwarber impression in the outfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Vlad and Pete Alonso are both making $550K this year. The winner of the derby will make $1M. God I hate sports owners. What kind of contract did Vlad Jr deserve for a guy who never played in the majors until this year. The same with Alonso? How can you hate the owners for the contracts the rookies have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, buno67 said: What kind of contract did Vlad Jr deserve for a guy who never played in the majors until this year. The same with Alonso? If Vlad Jr. was a free agent going into this season, he probably gets north of $100MM. Alonso gets less. 24 minutes ago, buno67 said: How can you hate the owners for the contracts the rookies have? For years, the unwritten rule between players and owners was that rookies and pre-FA players would be underpaid, and FA would get overpaid to make up for it. That's not a perfect system, but in general it washed out. FA are not overpaid. Not even close anymore, and as a result the share the players get of revenue has dropped from 50% (which is the number that virtually all other pro sports live at), to 40%. In this case, that's north of a billion dollars/year that the players should be getting, and they aren't. What have the owners done with that? Well, they've invested some of it in lobbying politicians in states with spring training facilities like Arizona to make sure that minor leaguers can't even get minimum wage. They've also put in a hard cap on spending in the international market to try and deflate the prices of 16 year old Latin American kids with no leverage who never had a chance to collectively bargain for their own interests. Saying "how can you hate owners for rookie contracts" is an incomplete question. You have to look at the big picture of how baseball owners have treated players over the past 5-8 years, and when you do, there's plenty of opportunity to hate them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 What a great home run derby last night, one of the better ones IMO. Congrats to Pete Alonso on winning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Will the MLBPA pull their head out of their collective ***? Probably not. But at least they're trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 5 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: If Vlad Jr. was a free agent going into this season, he probably gets north of $100MM. Alonso gets less. For years, the unwritten rule between players and owners was that rookies and pre-FA players would be underpaid, and FA would get overpaid to make up for it. That's not a perfect system, but in general it washed out. FA are not overpaid. Not even close anymore, and as a result the share the players get of revenue has dropped from 50% (which is the number that virtually all other pro sports live at), to 40%. In this case, that's north of a billion dollars/year that the players should be getting, and they aren't. What have the owners done with that? Well, they've invested some of it in lobbying politicians in states with spring training facilities like Arizona to make sure that minor leaguers can't even get minimum wage. They've also put in a hard cap on spending in the international market to try and deflate the prices of 16 year old Latin American kids with no leverage who never had a chance to collectively bargain for their own interests. Saying "how can you hate owners for rookie contracts" is an incomplete question. You have to look at the big picture of how baseball owners have treated players over the past 5-8 years, and when you do, there's plenty of opportunity to hate them. No way would an untested Vlad Jr get $100m contract before this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, buno67 said: No way would an untested Vlad Jr get $100m contract before this season... https://blogs.fangraphs.com/an-update-to-prospect-valuation/ Prospects who are as good as Vlad Jr. (70 FV+, position player) averaged $112.5MM value over their first 6 seasons. If Vlad was a free agent, he wouldn't be limited to just selling those 6 years, so yeah he would have gotten those kinds of offers had he been a FA. If you want a real world example, Acuna got $100MM this offseason and it was (correctly) described as a wild, wild underpay that probably cost him $100MM after like 100 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 8 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: If Vlad Jr. was a free agent going into this season, he probably gets north of $100MM. Alonso gets less. For years, the unwritten rule between players and owners was that rookies and pre-FA players would be underpaid, and FA would get overpaid to make up for it. That's not a perfect system, but in general it washed out. FA are not overpaid. Not even close anymore, and as a result the share the players get of revenue has dropped from 50% (which is the number that virtually all other pro sports live at), to 40%. In this case, that's north of a billion dollars/year that the players should be getting, and they aren't. What have the owners done with that? Well, they've invested some of it in lobbying politicians in states with spring training facilities like Arizona to make sure that minor leaguers can't even get minimum wage. They've also put in a hard cap on spending in the international market to try and deflate the prices of 16 year old Latin American kids with no leverage who never had a chance to collectively bargain for their own interests. Saying "how can you hate owners for rookie contracts" is an incomplete question. You have to look at the big picture of how baseball owners have treated players over the past 5-8 years, and when you do, there's plenty of opportunity to hate them. Yove said this a few times. Youre either flat out lying/making stuff up or have legit proof of it. Which one, cause its very likely that its the former but id love to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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