raidr4life Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, BayRaider said: PFF Buyer Beware Projected 1st Rounders: 1) Rashan Gary 2) Daniel Jones 3) Josh Jacobs They like Jacobs. But In the Mid-Late 2nd. Jacobs is a three down back but he’s only slightly above average in every category. He does nothing great. He also has very below average speed. Not surprised Gary tops this list, i don't know who can watch a Michigan game and think he looks better than Winovich on the field on a weekly basis, and I'm not super high on Winovich myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Any names left that some reporter swears we like from some unnamed insider buddy? My Grandma tweeted Gruden loves Ferrell at #4 say's her and Gruden's grandma go way back so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Curious as a top 20 hs player would you rather go to for example a college like bama and not be guaranteed pt, end up prolly being a rotational guy that might have to sit for a while or go to a less prestigious school like Purdue which is still d1 in a excellent conference but you’re guaranteed playing time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, drfrey13 said: After seeing the Big Ben extension, Wilson contract, and what Brady is going to get I think no matter how Carr plays this year if a QB is good value at any of our picks, Murray and Haskins are not good value at 4, this year or next we should take them. Start developing his backup because if he does start to play well he will get $30-35 a year when it is time to extend him. We need someone who can replace him and if he plays out of his mind and wants ridiculous money we can trade him for a ton and we should be fine. If he plays like a franchise QB you should pay him like it, or suffer more losing seasons because you want to save money on the most important position in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Curious as a top 20 hs player would you rather go to for example a college like bama and not be guaranteed pt, end up prolly being a rotational guy that might have to sit for a while or go to a less prestigious school like Purdue which is still d1 in a excellent conference but you’re guaranteed playing time? PT or not, Bama churns pro ready players out annually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Aww! @big_palooka has been my nemesis for years, we need each other like Batman needs the Joker. Him being the Joker of course. This bromance is sickening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Curious as a top 20 hs player would you rather go to for example a college like bama and not be guaranteed pt, end up prolly being a rotational guy that might have to sit for a while or go to a less prestigious school like Purdue which is still d1 in a excellent conference but you’re guaranteed playing time? As long as I was sure that I could get a good education in my field and had a good support staff (coaches, trainers, etc) at Purdue then that is what I would choose. Alabama is college football elite in everything but say if I was a freshman corner that had size and skill but Bama had 3 or 4 guys in front of me than I would bet on myself. That is just a basic answer though. In real life so many factors would go into that decision. 3 minutes ago, Geezy said: PT or not, Bama churns pro ready players out annually. That wasn't the question. He knows they got the 4 and 5 star guys. It's about whether its worth it to maybe a better chance to shine to be in that program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NightTrainLane Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Not surprised Gary tops this list, i don't know who can watch a Michigan game and think he looks better than Winovich on the field on a weekly basis, and I'm not super high on Winovich myself. Gary is rated higher off of potential, attributes and scheme versatility. Winovich is pretty much who he is gonna be at this point. He can get a bit better technique wise but he is about maxed in the other areas. Not to say that he won't be a good Pro for years because I can see that. Just Gary has the building blocks to be great. We just haven't seen it yet. How do you value that "chance" is the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Curious as a top 20 hs player would you rather go to for example a college like bama and not be guaranteed pt, end up prolly being a rotational guy that might have to sit for a while or go to a less prestigious school like Purdue which is still d1 in a excellent conference but you’re guaranteed playing time? 3 They want to win a national championship, play on national television every week, and they get to practice against the best of the best every day for 3-4 years. Look at a guy like Quinnen, he went from back up rotational player to a top 5 pick in one year. I'm sure a lot of that has to do with the coaching/practice he got at Bama against the best of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, NightTrainLane said: Gary is rated higher off of potential, attributes and scheme versatility. Winovich is pretty much who he is gonna be at this point. He can get a bit better technique wise but he is about maxed in the other areas. Not to say that he won't be a good Pro for years because I can see that. Just Gary has the building blocks to be great. We just haven't seen it yet. How do you value that "chance" is the question? Yup. People always forget that the NFL draft is all about upside. A lot of the top pass rushers were just okay in college but had the traits to be great and became great once they received NFL coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Aww! @big_palooka has been my nemesis for years, we need each other like Batman needs the Joker. Him being the Joker of course. You guys are rivals, @big_palooka is more like my annoying little brother, wants to be like me, but just isn't on my level yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Hear that Washington? You better trade up or else he's gonezo! Quickly! This smoke screen is going to work out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, SBXISBXVSBXVIII said: This bromance is sickening I got sick typing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, NightTrainLane said: As long as I was sure that I could get a good education in my field and had a good support staff (coaches, trainers, etc) at Purdue then that is what I would choose. Alabama is college football elite in everything but say if I was a freshman corner that had size and skill but Bama had 3 or 4 guys in front of me than I would bet on myself. That is just a basic answer though. In real life so many factors would go into that decision. That wasn't the question. He knows they got the 4 and 5 star guys. It's about whether its worth it to maybe a better chance to shine to be in that program. I understood the question. My answer was regardless of PT, all else being equal, I’d go with Bama because that would be the best shot at the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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