BleedTheClock Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, NVRamsFan said: The Rams have returned, to LA. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 A lot of people in here dismissing the NFL learning curve for Murray. It’s going to be maybe the steepest ever for a Qb. Had the Cards made every pick the same except for taking Bosa/Q #1 and keeping Rosen it might be an all timer for AZ (on paper). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: A lot of people in here dismissing the NFL learning curve for Murray. It’s going to be maybe the steepest ever for a Qb. Had the Cards made every pick the same except for taking Bosa/Q #1 and keeping Rosen it might be an all timer for AZ (on paper). What learning curve are you worried about? How does it differ from any other rookie #1 QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: What learning curve are you worried about? How does it differ from any other rookie #1 QB? There’s a few... Most rookie QB’s aren’t entering the league to a coach with zero NFL coaching experience. Most rookie QB’s don’t go from having the #1 ranked OL in CFB to the #32 ranked OL in the NFL. Current successful QB’s with only one year of starting experience in CFB have prototypical size by NFL standards (Cam, Trubisky). Every sub 6ft QB that is currently having success had at least 3 years of starting experience in CFB (Brees, Mayfield, Wilson). If Kyler Murray becomes a successful NFL QB he will be the first of his prototype; size, lack of experience, talent disparity at each level. Hell by next year his damn near entire offense at Oklahoma will have been drafted. The deck is certainly stacked against him more than every other #1 QB since maybe JaMarcus Russell, IMO. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Bills cardinals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: If Kyler Murray becomes a successful NFL QB he will be the first of his prototype; size, lack of experience, talent disparity at each level. There has also never been a #1 overall pick with the initials KM and also could’ve played baseball. The odds are against him, for sure. Edited April 28, 2019 by Yin-Yang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: There has also never been a #1 overall pick with the initials KM and also could’ve played baseball. The odds are against him, for sure. And we still don’t know if we got a no-baseball clause in his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, DirtyDez said: There’s a few... Most rookie QB’s aren’t entering the league to a coach with zero NFL coaching experience. Most rookie QB’s don’t go from having the #1 ranked OL in CFB to the #32 ranked OL in the NFL. Current successful QB’s with only one year of starting experience in CFB have prototypical size by NFL standards (Cam, Trubisky). Every sub 6ft QB that is currently having success had at least 3 years of starting experience in CFB (Brees, Mayfield, Wilson). If Kyler Murray becomes a successful NFL QB he will be the first of his prototype; size, lack of experience, talent disparity at each level. Hell by next year his damn near entire offense at Oklahoma will have been drafted. The deck is certainly stacked against him more than every other #1 QB since maybe JaMarcus Russell, IMO. I wouldn’t say JaMarcus had the deck stacked against him, he had no desire to learn the game, never watched tape, and his plan was to steal his 68M guaranteed. Same thing Albert Haynesworth did on the Redskins. David Carr would be a more accurate comparison. That was a terrible situation and the Texans absolutely ruined his career from the very first day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Patriots had their best draft in years and I've been seeing a lot of people ranking them very high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 49 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: And we still don’t know if we got a no-baseball clause in his contract. Its illegal. So no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 composite ranking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, 11sanchez11 said: Its illegal. So no. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: Yep. They can definitely protect themselves, probably financially. But you can't tell someone he can't do another job lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1. Redskins 2. Packers 3. Jaguars 4. Patriots 5. Chiefs 6. Cardinals 7. Bills 8. Bengals 9. Raiders 10. Seahawks Best of the Rest: Eagles, Vikings, Giants, Panthers, Chargers, Rams, Texans, Saints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomont Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) Maybe Murray will be a star. But I still think that is one of the dumbest moves by a team ever. They basically just pissed away last year's #1 pick (plus whatever they paid to move to get it) for a late 2d rounder, and all so they could draft a short, not exactly Mensa material QB who's had one whole year of success on a team loaded with talent. If Murray struggles and they have a real high pick next year.....trade Murray and draft another QB? Edited April 29, 2019 by bomont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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