Matts4313 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 34 minutes ago, DaBoys said: What's going on with Wentz? Has all the arm talent in the world. Plays behind an all world line... Same thing that happened to Dak. Ishy WRs and a lack of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: Same thing that happened to Dak. Ishy WRs and a lack of confidence. Don't ever put Wentz and Dak in the same sentence again. Such blasphemy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nextyearfordaboyz Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I really think that New England is Dak's shot to truly enter the MVP race. If he scores 30+ and wins, he's going to have a ton of momentum behind him. If he doesn't play that well, or we lose, it's probably going to be impossible for him to catch Wilson or Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: I really think that New England is Dak's shot to truly enter the MVP race. If he scores 30+ and wins, he's going to have a ton of momentum behind him. If he doesn't play that well, or we lose, it's probably going to be impossible for him to catch Wilson or Jackson. Agreed; but I dont want him to win MVP this year honestly. Wait until we sign him for 6 years, then he can win all the MVP awards. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNBlackFan Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: Not bad for a guy some on this forum used to refer to as "Quincy" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 16 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Same thing that happened to Dak. Ishy WRs and a lack of confidence. Yep that's exactly what happened with the near exact same receiving core from last year. Had nothing to do with sh!t coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: Yep that's exactly what happened with the near exact same receiving core from last year. Had nothing to do with sh!t coaching. "near exact" Do you for real think its the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Matts4313 said: "near exact" Do you for real think its the same? Are you actually insinuating that his play has been the same from last year to this year? The only thing that has actually changed is coaches. From game 8 onwards his receivers were Cooper, Gallup, Jarwin, Beasley, Zeke and Austin Going into this season its still Cooper, Gallup, Jarwin, Zeke, and Austin. We lost Beasley but picked up Cobb. Got Witten and brought along Pollard. The big 3 have stayed the same though Cooper, Gallup and Zeke has the main skillset trio. Only thing that has really changed is the extra time to develop chemistry on the players side. Coaching though has been very different, everyone and their mother says so. Hell people comment every damn game the amount that Dak has changed from last year to this year to the point where Zeke was poking fun at him after a TD. The only person who doesn't seem to know that he's actually changed is you, and his change by and large can be attributed to adaptive coaching which surprisingly Moore and Kitna have brought alot of since they got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Calvert28 said: Are you actually insinuating that his play has been the same from last year to this year? The only thing that has actually changed is coaches. From game 8 onwards his receivers were Cooper, Gallup, Jarwin, Beasley, Zeke and Austin Going into this season its still Cooper, Gallup, Jarwin, Zeke, and Austin. We lost Beasley but picked up Cobb. Got Witten and brought along Pollard. The big 3 have stayed the same though Cooper, Gallup and Zeke has the main skillset trio. Only thing that has really changed is the extra time to develop chemistry on the players side. Coaching though has been very different, everyone and their mother says so. Hell people comment every damn game the amount that Dak has changed from last year to this year to the point where Zeke was poking fun at him after a TD. The only person who doesn't seem to know that he's actually changed is you, and his change by and large can be attributed to adaptive coaching which surprisingly Moore and Kitna have brought alot of since they got here. Ok. So do you realize that from the cooper trade onwards last year that Dak was top 5 in virtually every stat? Im not arguing that coaching has not been a factor. It 100% has been a factor. I was simply relating to the situation Wentz is in. Dak struggled also when his OL and WRs were crap. Which is why we fired our OL coach and replaced all our WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 10 hours ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: Through week 11 Passer Rating Player Passer Rating 1 Russell Wilson 114.9 2 Kirk Cousins 114.8 3 Patrick Mahomes 110.0 4 Lamar Jackson 106.3 5 Matthew Stafford 106.0 6 Derek Carr 105.2 7 Drew Brees 104.8 8 Ryan Tannehill 104.4 9 Dak Prescott 104.1 10 Deshaun Watson 103.3 Total QBR Player Total QBR 1 Russell Wilson 78.0 2 Dak Prescott 77.8 3 Lamar Jackson 77.8 4 Patrick Mahomes 77.0 5 Deshaun Watson 71.9 6 Matthew Stafford 69.1 7 Carson Wentz 67.0 8 Kirk Cousins 62.8 9 Matt Ryan 62.6 10 Kyler Murray 62.5 PFF Player PFF 1 Russell Wilson 91.0 2 Lamar Jackson 90.1 3 Drew Brees 89.1 4 Aaron Rodgers 86.8 5 Kirk Cousins 85.3 6 Dak Prescott 85.2 7 Tom Brady 82.9 8 Deshaun Watson 82.4 9 Matthew Stafford 82.4 10 Derek Carr 82.0 DVOA Player DVOA 1 Patrick Mahomes 36.4% 2 Dak Prescott 35.5% 3 Matthew Stafford 31.0% 4 Russell Wilson 30.8% 5 Kirk Cousins 26.0% 6 Derek Carr 25.6% 7 Lamar Jackson 25.6% 8 Aaron Rodgers 22.4% 9 Deshaun Watson 16.7% 10 Ryan Tannehill 15.5% Adjusted Net Yards/Attempt Player ANY/A 1 Patrick Mahomes 9.03 2 Kirk Cousins 8.43 3 Dak Prescott 8.33 4 Russell Wilson 8.27 5 Matthew Stafford 8.15 6 Lamar Jackson 7.77 7 Derek Carr 7.61 8 Aaron Rodgers 7.56 9 Drew Brees 7.12 10 Deshaun Watson 6.89 Aggregate of these 5 lists (if you were to hold each in equal regard) QB PR QBR PFF DVOA ANY/A Avg 1 Russell Wilson 1 1 1 4 4 2.2 -- 2 Patrick Mahomes 3 4 12 1 1 4.2 -- 3 Kirk Cousins 2 8 5 5 2 4.4 +5 4 Dak Prescott 9 2 6 2 3 4.4 -- 5 Lamar Jackson 4 3 2 7 6 4.4 +6 6 Matthew Stafford 5 6 9 3 5 5.6 -- 7 Derek Carr 6 11 10 6 7 8.0 -- 8 Deshaun Watson 10 5 8 9 10 8.4 -3 9 Aaron Rodgers 11 14 4 8 8 9.0 -- 10 Drew Brees 7 15 3 14 9 9.6 -7 11 Ryan Tannehill 8 19 13 10 15 13.0 12 Matt Ryan 13 9 14 13 16 13.0 13 Carson Wentz 18 7 11 16 20 14.4 14 Jimmy Garoppolo 14 13 15 19 12 14.6 -4 15 Tom Brady 20 16 7 15 17 15.0 16 Teddy Bridgewater 12 22 19 11 13 15.4 17 Jacoby Brissett 15 17 25 12 14 16.6 18 Kyler Murray 19 10 17 20 22 17.6 19 Gardner Minshew 16 25 20 17 11 17.8 20 Philip Rivers 22 24 18 18 19 20.2 21 Ryan Fitzpatrick 31 12 16 22 30 22.2 22 Jared Goff 27 28 22 21 18 23.2 23 Joe Flacco 24 20 23 27 25 23.8 24 Jameis Winston 29 21 24 25 24 24.6 25 Josh Allen 23 27 29 26 21 25.2 26 Marcus Mariota 17 33 27 28 23 25.6 27 Baker Mayfield 33 23 21 23 28 25.6 28 Daniel Jones 21 18 28 33 29 25.8 29 Andy Dalton 32 29 26 24 26 27.4 30 Mason Rudolph 25 32 33 29 27 29.2 31 Sam Darnold 28 26 30 31 31 29.2 32 Mitchell Trubisky 26 30 31 30 33 30.0 33 Kyle Allen 30 31 32 32 32 31.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-dak-prescott-the-mvp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 WIN MORE GAMES CHIEF 6-5 Is beating bad teams and losing to good teams becoming a trend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, TheGame316 said: WIN MORE GAMES CHIEF 6-5 Is beating bad teams and losing to good teams becoming a trend? sorry but you are an I%$6$%T Jason Garett was to this long before Dak got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Dak might have come through for us today. But this should erase any doubt that JG cant bring out the talent in this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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