frenchie Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 What is this urge to write off young QBs all of a sudden? Trubisky doesn't even have 2 seasons worth of starts yet. The thing is, everyone knew he was more of a gimmicky type of QB that was going to need time to develop, yet here we are, barely into year 3, and everyone's whining because he's not elite... I admit, I'm not in love with anything I've seen so far, but he doesn't completely suck, and honestly, he's had some success: He's 14-5 in his last 19 starts with 29 TDs to 14 INTs. He also rushed for 400+ yards and 3 TDs in 2018. The talent is there, the coaching is a bit suspect IMO... 2 hours ago, rocky_rams said: The Bears have a solid overall team and clearly Trubiskey is holding them back. Now is their time to maximize their opportunities to go for a SB run before its too late Starting RB is barely averaging 3 ypc for the season. RB2 is barely averaging 2 ypc. Receivers are nothing special. defense has given up over 800 total yards (over 300 rushing) in the last two weeks. Gave up 36 points to the Saints without Brees, Kamara, and Cook... No doubt Trubisky has struggled, but it's not just him. and by the way, he was wearing a shoulder brace for the Saints game. Don't know how much difference it made, but worth mentioning. 2 hours ago, rocky_rams said: Should the Bears trade for a Cam Newton, Teddy Bridgewater, Nick Foles, or even Eli Manning? I don't think Eli is an upgrade, and despite shredding them last week, neither is Bridgewater.... Newton has gotten 8 years to prove he's mediocre, but you can't give Trubisky 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, doomer said: Too late for this season imo. You can't expect a QB to come in week 8, learn a new system and stay in contention. Bridgewater will be a FA so no need to give up assets. Yes, it's not like Madden. An entire offseason would be required for a guy you want starting. Mitchell isn't looking like the future, but he's still really young. I don't know, I think the Bears need to just play him for another season at least. Start him in all of the games, so at the end of the day you can say that you gave it four years. Three with the same offense. This wasn't Nagy's guy though so the situation is a little different. Edited October 24, 2019 by PapaShogun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, frenchie said: Newton has gotten 8 years to prove he's mediocre, but you can't give Trubisky 3? Newton looked like a ray of sunshine from his first game though, and when he played it was clear he wasn't holding the Panthers back, but dragging a corpse of a team for the first couple of years. Not really the same with Mitchell. He needs more time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nex_Gen Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Depends. Can they trade a 5th for maybe Mahomes'? One thing is for sure. Trubisky has to go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roninho Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Can the Bears have a deep playoff run if they have a top 15 qb? If you dont then no need to trade for one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, frenchie said: What is this urge to write off young QBs all of a sudden? It's always been like this, at least since I've been on FF and social media. Goes both ways. We see QB's crowned after a year just as often as we see QB's called busts. I'd say 50% of the time it's premature. Have to give it time w/ QBs, they all (1st rounders) have the arm talent, just a process of determining whether they truly have the mind for it. How long should you give a QB? Well obviously there's no clear answer to that, which complicates things and opens the door for criticism when a guy sticks around a little too long in hindsight, but I tend to favor sticking through the rookie deal, so 4-5 years. If there's truly no progress being made, or you end up with another top QB prospects in your lap that you feel much better with than your current QB (like what happened w/ Cards), then by all means move on, but odds are you really won't be in position to grab another top QB prospect for a few years anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 We should absolutely not be writing young QBs off, like we shouldn't be crowning QBs prematurely. However, with Biscuits, he shows fundamental issues that should scare the sh out of owners. He doesn't see open receivers in front of his face. Nagy can draw basic concepts up, which gets a receiver open almost immediately, and Trubs is nowhere! Must be frustrating the life out of Nagy. How long do you give that? It's like a NASA physicist who struggles with his 4 times tables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzane Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Forge said: The niners already had singletary once. We did not want him back But-but-but---- Mike Singletary!!!! The man who was in the vanguard of the New Wave coaching style of rushing up and down the sidelines, screaming, and little pig eyes glaring wildly! Arguably a greater intellectual contribution to football coaching than anything Bill Walsh ever did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie_eagle Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, bzane said: But-but-but---- Mike Singletary!!!! The man who was in the vanguard of the New Wave coaching style of rushing up and down the sidelines, screaming, and little pig eyes glaring wildly! Arguably a greater intellectual contribution to football coaching than anything Bill Walsh ever did! I want winners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 The ball just looks awkward coming out of his hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Rams need to recoup some picks so I would do Blake Bortles for 3rd. I know he's not a savior, but he has playoff experience and he's def better than Trubisky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Right now? No. If Tribusky can't show improvement by the end of this year, you have to make a move in the offseason. Bears gave up two first rounders for Mack. That's a move you make when you're on the cusp of contention. I thought it was a mistake then, because it seemed pretty obvious that Tribusky wasn't ready and might not ever be. You should know that your QB can take you to the Championship round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, BStanRamFan said: Rams need to recoup some picks so I would do Blake Bortles for 3rd. I know he's not a savior, but he has playoff experience and he's def better than Trubisky. lol^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Bridgewater is probably going to net a 3rd round comp pick. So if you're going to trade for Bridgewater it better beat that. But I highly doubt that the Saints would even trade Bridgewater at this point. I'm sure they want to see what happens with Brees...who knows, they may need Bridgewater again at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, sammymvpknight said: Bridgewater is probably going to net a 3rd round comp pick. So if you're going to trade for Bridgewater it better beat that. But I highly doubt that the Saints would even trade Bridgewater at this point. I'm sure they want to see what happens with Brees...who knows, they may need Bridgewater again at some point. Saints would be very foolish to let Bridgewater walk. They should sign him to a Jacoby Brissett type extension if he will take it. This should be Brees last year and clearly the team is rallying around Bridgewater. Not sure you will find a better replacement for Brees given what we've seen from Teddy this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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