Forge Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, SBLIII said: you don't disappoint! @bzane is a national treasure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Haskins didnt always look great at OSU. He was ridiculously overdrafted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadaluvsdallas Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 7:46 PM, Bonanza23 said: Instant gratification crew I guess checking in. When will you morons get the too early scenario? On 10/24/2019 at 7:53 PM, Yin-Yang said: Not ready his rookie season? Put a fork in him. Yeah let's throw a rookie QB into a #1 rated Pats Defense coached up by Billie. Oh BTW our whole team is playing like trash. goodluck kid! Someone trade for Haskins man. I feel bad for the guy. Get him outta there 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 A biomechanical review of Haskins that was done back in April: https://in-thinair.com/2019/04/23/biomechanical-review-dwayne-haskins-update-revision/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossyMoss Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 3:33 PM, MKnight82 said: Just because Haskins sucks doesn't mean Daniel Jones doesn't suck. Yes I totally agree, my point was we were less than 1/2 a season in, still too early to tell if x player not worth 1st round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 7:46 PM, Bonanza23 said: Instant gratification crew I guess checking in. When will you morons get the too early scenario? On 10/24/2019 at 7:53 PM, Yin-Yang said: Not ready his rookie season? Put a fork in him. I think the OP was asking why he was drafted in the 1st rd. how he has played this year has nothing to do w/ that. so that's one way the thread could go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 8:06 PM, ClutchDJ said: I think a majority here had him QB1 over Murray & I struggled to find even one trait/ability I would give him the nod over Murray. Was wild. This baffles me 100% if you watched tape on them. I had Murray as a Top 3 prospect in the whole draft and Haskins as a Late 2nd. What does Haskins do better than Murray besides intermediate-middle of field accuracy? Pre Draft: Pocket Presence - Murray, by far. Murray gets hated on for not being a pocket QB but his pocket presence was super legit and 2nd only to Ryan Finley. Throwing Power - Murray. Murray does have a stronger arm than Haskins 100%. Haskins arm strength is mightily overrated. Plus Murrays balls never hang like a lot of Haskins do. Murray had the best arm strength of all draftable QBs in this class. Tyree Jackson is not a draftable QB. IQ - Murray here. Maybe not by much, but it’s still 100% Murray. Release - Murray had the best release of the class. Super fast and pops out like a rocket. Mobility - Murray, no brainer Sack Evading - Murray, no brainer Sideline and Deep Accuracy - Murray, by far. Under Pressure - Murray was the best QB in college football under pressure. Haskins was one of the worst. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 20 minutes ago, BayRaider said: This baffles me 100% if you watched tape on them. I had Murray as a Top 3 prospect in the whole draft and Haskins as a Late 2nd. What does Haskins do better than Murray besides intermediate-middle of field accuracy? Pre Draft: Pocket Presence - Murray, by far. Murray gets hated on for not being a pocket QB but his pocket presence was super legit and 2nd only to Ryan Finley. Throwing Power - Murray. Murray does have a stronger arm than Haskins 100%. Haskins arm strength is mightily overrated. Plus Murrays balls never hang like a lot of Haskins do. Murray had the best arm strength of all draftable QBs in this class. Tyree Jackson is not a draftable QB. IQ - Murray here. Maybe not by much, but it’s still 100% Murray. Release - Murray had the best release of the class. Super fast and pops out like a rocket. Mobility - Murray, no brainer Sack Evading - Murray, no brainer Sideline and Deep Accuracy - Murray, by far. Under Pressure - Murray was the best QB in college football under pressure. Haskins was one of the worst. Kyler’s pocket presence has been so so. Granted the learning curve going from the best OL in CFB to maybe the worst in pro football is steep. He’s left a lot of plays on the field by fading back instead of stepping up but there’s a lot of room for improvement which is exciting. There’s no way Haskins could’ve gone back after that Rose Bowl/50 TD’s but if he did he’d be the run away #1 pick and much better prepared for the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: Kyler’s pocket presence has been so so. Granted the learning curve going from the best OL in CFB to maybe the worst in pro football is steep. He’s left a lot of plays on the field by fading back instead of stepping up but there’s a lot of room for improvement which is exciting. There’s no way Haskins could’ve gone back after that Rose Bowl/50 TD’s but if he did he’d be the run away #1 pick and much better prepared for the NFL. Haskins wouldn’t of picked anywhere near Tua or Burrow. This is beyond laughable. He’d be the 4th QB taken after Herbert. Stop looking at stats and literally watch and break down every play. If I hear 50 TD’s one more time... Haskins isn’t half the prospect Tua or Burrow is and was absolutely not on Kyler Murrays level as a prospect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger murdock Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Haskins went to a garbage situation but was unreal at OSU and will succeed in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 minute ago, BayRaider said: Haskins wouldn’t of picked anywhere near Tua or Burrow. This is beyond laughable. He’d be the 4th QB taken after Herbert. Stop looking at stats and literally watch and break down every play. If I hear 50 TD’s one more time... Haskins isn’t half the prospect Tua or Burrow is and was absolutely not on Kyler Murrays level as a prospect. “Run away” was a bit string but I disagree that there would’ve been no room for improvement returning. He was a 1 year starter in college and could’ve fixed some flaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, BayRaider said: Haskins wouldn’t of picked anywhere near Tua or Burrow. This is beyond laughable. He’d be the 4th QB taken after Herbert. Feel bad for whomever gets Herbert. I have never seen it with him, tbh. I didn't last year, and in the brief glimpses this year, I haven't been in love (though I tend to most of my actual study during the off season, so this is just highly topical so far this year). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Forge said: Feel bad for whomever gets Herbert. I have never seen it with him, tbh. I didn't last year, and in the brief glimpses this year, I haven't been in love (though I tend to most of my actual study during the off season, so this is just highly topical so far this year). I have Herbert as my QB5 behind Eason and Fromm, but I know some teams will be in love with him (cough Denver cough) and he will go Top 10 and 3rd QB taken. Eason will he a big surprise in the NFL and if Fromm goes to Pats or Saints, their offense will hardly miss a beat. He’s a perfect fit for both those teams. Especially Saints. Edited November 3, 2019 by BayRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Almost everyone on the planet had him going in the top 10 up until draft day and suddenly he shouldn’t have been a first round pick? Never change FF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 On 11/3/2019 at 5:07 PM, BayRaider said: I have Herbert as my QB5 behind Eason and Fromm, but I know some teams will be in love with him (cough Denver cough) and he will go Top 10 and 3rd QB taken. Eason will he a big surprise in the NFL and if Fromm goes to Pats or Saints, their offense will hardly miss a beat. He’s a perfect fit for both those teams. Especially Saints. Eason a surprise? He was a top recruit who went to a top school and then lost his job to another top recruit due to injury. Everyone knows what Eason is and what he has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.