xlfrosti Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 hours ago, kgarrett12486 said: He's the Marcus Davenport of DTs. He needs to refine his game, but the skill set could be elite... Where do you guys think Bryan gets drafted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What_The_Buc Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 6 hours ago, xlfrosti said: Where do you guys think Bryan gets drafted? I would say 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, What_The_Buc said: I would say 2nd round. I was thinking late first. Vea and Payne probably go top 15ish and Bryan goes a little later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 9 hours ago, xlfrosti said: Where do you guys think Bryan gets drafted? Middle to late 1st. Some teams have him as the 1st or 2nd DT on their board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Good chance Nelson, Wynn, and Hernandez all off the board by the time the Bucs pick in the 2nd round. I expect Licht to trade back somewhere to get another pick not necessarily the 1st or 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 A unique list. Could James go even before 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What_The_Buc Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, ravishingone said: A unique list. Could James go even before 7? In another year yes he definetly could but this year being such a weird year with teams needing quarterbacks and multiple quarterbacks holding first round grades I just don’t see it happening. You’re gonna see either 3-4 quarterbacks go Chubb,Barkley,and Nelson in no particular order. James is the guy I want. His personality and passion for the game is Kwon 2.0. Just in a safety form. Hawley was asked before he retired what this team needed and his answer was another defensive lineman (we signed 4) and a big playmaking safety. That’s Derwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 @eggybucsfan31 will be happy. I really struggle with this because after the big 3 secondary has the better prospects, but on dline they are 1 or 2 injuries away from Will Clarke getting a lot of snaps. Considering age and injury history of dline, injuries are expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 56 minutes ago, ravishingone said: @eggybucsfan31 will be happy. I really struggle with this because after the big 3 secondary has the better prospects, but on dline they are 1 or 2 injuries away from Will Clarke getting a lot of snaps. Considering age and injury history of dline, injuries are expected That would be a reach IMO. I don't even have Vea in my top 3 of DT's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, kgarrett12486 said: That would be a reach IMO. I don't even have Vea in my top 3 of DT's... I do see the value in Vea. His size and atleticism is ridiculous. His ability to take on a double team and not be moved is impressive. Watching Baker and McDonald get pushed out of the way I appreciate DTs who can anchor. My question with Vea has been get off. Was it scheme related because he was 2 gapping. Or is he just that slow off the ball? If it is scheme, being able to play 3 or 5 technique along with 1 is extremely rare. Very few guys have done it. Receny memory Ngata and Wilfork. I would like to see a DT drafted this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, ravishingone said: I do see the value in Vea. His size and atleticism is ridiculous. His ability to take on a double team and not be moved is impressive. Watching Baker and McDonald get pushed out of the way I appreciate DTs who can anchor. My question with Vea has been get off. Was it scheme related because he was 2 gapping. Or is he just that slow off the ball? If it is scheme, being able to play 3 or 5 technique along with 1 is extremely rare. Very few guys have done it. Receny memory Ngata and Wilfork. I would like to see a DT drafted this year. Drawing a lot of comps to his former UW alum Danny Shelton. That's not a good thing... From the limited amount I've seen on him, he's slow off the ball. Good against the run no doubt, but not sure what he really offers as a pass rusher at the next level. Some seem to think he'll take the next step and some think it won't translate. Too many question marks for my liking inside the top ten... My board for 1st round DT talents: 1. Taven Bryant 2. Maurice Hurst 3. Da'Ron Payne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/24/2018 at 1:29 PM, What_The_Buc said: In another year yes he definetly could but this year being such a weird year with teams needing quarterbacks and multiple quarterbacks holding first round grades I just don’t see it happening. You’re gonna see either 3-4 quarterbacks go Chubb,Barkley,and Nelson in no particular order. James is the guy I want. His personality and passion for the game is Kwon 2.0. Just in a safety form. Hawley was asked before he retired what this team needed and his answer was another defensive lineman (we signed 4) and a big playmaking safety. That’s Derwin. You need a couple of freak ATH in the secondary nowadays. James will be help playing monsters like Julio Jones. 6’3 215 hell he is going to be useful for red zone defensive purposes. 40” vert please sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 6 hours ago, ravishingone said: @eggybucsfan31 will be happy. I really struggle with this because after the big 3 secondary has the better prospects, but on dline they are 1 or 2 injuries away from Will Clarke getting a lot of snaps. Considering age and injury history of dline, injuries are expected Well Licht told Allen he would be a starter for us when he signed with the Bucs. Vea at pick 7 is smokescreen and us just doing research. Maybe get a team that needs DR help to trade up with us on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, indifference said: Well Licht told Allen he would be a starter for us when he signed with the Bucs. Vea at pick 7 is smokescreen and us just doing research. Maybe get a team that needs DR help to trade up with us on draft day. My only concrrn with going secondary is the teams who have a good pash rush consistently are built by high draft picks. The Giants Super Bowl teams. The Broncos, Steelers and Eagles. I cant comment on the Pats since they have the GOAT at QB. They have spent one 2nd round pick on dline since GMC has been drafted. I get dont draft for need, but Licht cant wait till Day 3 to replenish. Spence is a health question mark and after the probable nickel package dline, the pass rush drop off is substantial. Licht has his work cut out for him, it will be interesting to see his game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Shorty Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, indifference said: Well Licht told Allen he would be a starter for us when he signed with the Bucs. Vea at pick 7 is smokescreen and us just doing research. Maybe get a team that needs DR help to trade up with us on draft day. If Hurst fell to the 2nd I’d consider it. McCoy isn’t 25 anymore and if his medical checks out in our team Dr mind, the guy is a force. Keep building the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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