big_palooka Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: The more I watch him, the more I think I personally would take Derwin James at 10. He's gonna be an absolute stud at a position of need in the NFL. Hell, he can probably play cornerback or nickel linebacker and do it super well. You draft guys like him and worry about fit in a defense later. He can legit step on the field day 1 and change the defense. Also SB88, I get what you're saying, but I wanna see Kjo at free safety. I think he can shine there with his range like he did in college. He just isn't meant to cover tight ends one on one. I agree. Hard to see it happening unless Gruden/Guenther are not sold on Obi. James brings leadership as well. Great locker room guy by all accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, big_palooka said: I agree. Hard to see it happening unless Gruden/Guenther are not sold on Obi. James brings leadership as well. Great locker room guy by all accounts. I think you can play 3 defensive backs when you have a guy as versatile as Derwin. I think Guenther will get the best out of Obi like he did with Illoka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I think Guenther will get the best out of Obi like he did with Illoka. You hope he can. There is a difference there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Raider Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Corners and pass rushers. Can’t have enough playing kc and sd twice a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bob Dobalina Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Yes I believe Derwin James is the pick.His measurable’s and upside are greater than than Fitzpatrick. He could step right in and be a impact player from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNBlackFan Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 9:14 PM, FloydFan said: And to clarify I don’t hate Jackson, I just don’t feel like a fit for the scheme we will be running. What about Mike Hughes, the UCF corner. Any thoughts on him? He's a guy i see creeping up draft boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: You hope he can. There is a difference there. And what exactly is that difference? I know your Obi skepticism is a recurring bit at this point, but there is literally no difference between thinking he'll be good vs. hoping he'll be good -- unless of course you're so dogmatic in your evaluation on him that no one can possibly logically think he'll be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: You draft guys like him and worry about fit in a defense later. He can legit step on the field day 1 and change the defense. I disagree with this take on virtually any safety/linebacker. He's a good player, but he can't step in and dominate at any position (especially not at corner). I view him as a WLB/ILB in the NFL in a similar mold of Deone Bucannon. I wouldn't hate the pick, but I don't think he'd change the complexion of the defense. This thinking also sets the player up for failure: if he doesn't become a game-changer right away, fans immediately think he's a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Rich7sena said: And what exactly is that difference? I know your Obi skepticism is a recurring bit at this point, but there is literally no difference between thinking he'll be good vs. hoping he'll be good -- unless of course you're so dogmatic in your evaluation on him that no one can possibly logically think he'll be good. Thinking implies you are fairly certain about something. In this case that Guenther can get the best out of Obi. Hoping implies wanting something to be true. In this case, wanting Guenther to get the the best out of Obi. It's wishful. Not assured or certain. It's uncertain, because we don't know what talent Obi has. Therefore, we are wanting (read, hopeful) he becomes something under Guenther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, big_palooka said: It's uncertain, because we don't know what talent Obi has. This simply isn’t true. We have a pretty good idea of Melifonwu’s talent. We even have a pretty good idea of what type of player he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 hours ago, big_palooka said: You hope he can. There is a difference there. And you hope he can't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I think you can play 3 defensive backs when you have a guy as versatile as Derwin. I think Guenther will get the best out of Obi like he did with Illoka. Agreed. Obi and James are versatile. KJ can play SS if he isn't taking on TEs too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Silver&Black88 said: And you hope he can't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I hope Obi becomes something. I want this team to succeed and we need him badly. I'm just not high on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, big_palooka said: I hope Obi becomes something. I want this team to succeed and we need him badly. I'm just not high on him. You know, I'm just now starting to pick up on this. This is sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 11 hours ago, Mr Bob Dobalina said: Yes I believe Derwin James is the pick.His measurable’s and upside are greater than than Fitzpatrick. He could step right in and be a impact player from day one. I can very easily see James being the pick at 10. He looks like a good player and our secondary is in shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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