Mox Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 1. Luka Doncic 2. Nikola Jokic 3. Karl Anthony Towns Big gap: Jason Tatum, Devin Booker, Donovan Mitchell, Trae Young in some order Zach LaVine sucks. He shouldn't be anywhere near anyone's top 5. Edited January 16, 2020 by Bullet Club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, DoleINGout said: Simmons is a glorified point guard with literally no shot and terrible free throw percentage and he only averages four more assists and the same number of turnovers. LaVine is a playmaker and a very good defender at his position. There is nothing for LaVine to "turn around". “Only averages 4 more assists” ... highly significant. And that’s just the numbers. Simmons is a special talent as a creator. Zach out there trying to get buckets. And that’s okay, he’s good at it. But the team sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Doncic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Zach LaVine is not an elite defender for his position. Is that a joke? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 the lack of love for Jaylen Brown, even from Boston fan is disappointing but not surprising I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Bullet Club said: Zach LaVine sucks. He shouldn't be anywhere near anyone's top 5. Hyperbole sucks. Who has LaVine anywhere near their top 5? 58 minutes ago, redsoxsuck05 said: Zach LaVine is not an elite defender for his position. Is that a joke? Who made it? I didn't see anyone call LaVine an elite defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: Who made it? I didn't see anyone call LaVine an elite defender. 3 hours ago, champ11 said: Every team in the NBA would take Simmons over LaVine and not give it a second of thought. Simmons is an elite playmaker, transition player, and defender. Zach Lavine is a volume scorer on a bad team that gives you nothing else. He's a sixth man/scorer off the bench for a good team at best IMO 2 hours ago, DoleINGout said: Every team in the NBA would be wrong then. It's never happened before? Happens all of the time. Everything you said Simmons does well LaVine does at an elite level also. LaVine has a consistent shot from the free throw line and three point line, not just field goals. To characterize LaVine as someone who gives you "nothing else" but volume scoring is misinformed and false. As for the last sentence in this post, that is totally irrelevant as it is a speculative opinion at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, DoleINGout said: Simmons is a glorified point guard with literally no shot and terrible free throw percentage and he only averages four more assists and the same number of turnovers. LaVine is a playmaker and a very good defender at his position. There is nothing for LaVine to "turn around". @jyod21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: Hyperbole sucks. Who has LaVine anywhere near their top 5? Who made it? I didn't see anyone call LaVine an elite defender. His name has been mentioned in the thread which is too much for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: His name has been mentioned in the thread which is too much for him. LaVine is tied for eighth in total steals thus far. He has eight less blocks than Simmons on the season despite being four inches shorter. And LaVine is one of the most well balanced and efficient offensive players in the league regardless of age. LaVine has become a legitimate consideration in the discussion for best players under the age of 25, especially when compiling a list of twenty. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle21121 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 OG should be mentioned. I have slightly lowered my expectations for him but he’s going to be very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: LaVine is tied for eighth in total steals thus far. He has eight less blocks than Simmons on the season despite being four inches shorter. And LaVine is one of the most well balanced and efficient offensive players in the league regardless of age. LaVine has become a legitimate consideration in the discussion for best players under the age of 25, especially when compiling a list of twenty. . . I doubt he'd crack my top twenty but I haven't thought that hard about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, DoleINGout said: Simmons is a glorified point guard with literally no shot and terrible free throw percentage and he only averages four more assists and the same number of turnovers. LaVine is a playmaker and a very good defender at his position. There is nothing for LaVine to "turn around". I'm sorry...what? LaVine is an awful defender. And calling him a playmaker is like calling Russell Westbrook an efficient shooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle21121 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 LaVine is a very poor defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 fuultz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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