TENINCH Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: you realize doctors are different, right? Well his value reappeared under this new doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, TENINCH said: Well his value reappeared under this new doctor. No it didnt. Twins had to throw in another prospect to complete the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Slateman said: No it didnt. Twins had to throw in another prospect to complete the trade. Yeah he's 25 years old and was already once a Dodger. He's a career minor league player. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 hours ago, MookieMonstah said: The sign stealing the MLB said they found no evidence of? generally speaking, not finding definite proof does not mean innocence. However, the most recent update i can find is manfred is trying to have decisions made before camp. Can you link a reputable article showing where mlb cleared them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 55 minutes ago, GSUeagles14 said: generally speaking, not finding definite proof does not mean innocence. However, the most recent update i can find is manfred is trying to have decisions made before camp. Can you link a reputable article showing where mlb cleared them? The screenshot, not Carrabis 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, TENINCH said: Well his value reappeared under this new doctor. No, it didn’t. Red Sox didn’t want him. Dodgers took him and got another prospect to appease all parties/Twins. It was a solid try though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 8 hours ago, GSUeagles14 said: Man, Boston us coming off as the scummiest of all organizations. First the sign stealing that really puts an asterisk on their world series and now this crap? hopefully it goes through just so theyll suck for the next 4-5 years. How is it scummy? If they don't like what the medicals say, they have every right to turn down the trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 23 hours ago, MookieMonstah said: What? It was a joke about you being traded to the Dodgers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, CWood21 said: It was a joke about you being traded to the Dodgers... Ah.... gotcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Slateman said: How is he a known commodity? The Twins dont share medical records and evaluations with all the other teams. Red Sox conducted their own exam and evaluated his injuries. They didn't have his entire medical history prior to the trade. Graterol was starting games in the minors this season. It's entirely possible that Boston viewed him as a starter, however nobody else did. He's a 2 pitch guy with a "fire hydrant" body type and an injury history. http://twinsdaily.com/articles.html/_/minnesota-twins-news/minnesota-twins-minor-leagues/twins-daily-2019-top-prospects-3-brusdar-graterol-r7517 Quote For what it's worth, Keith Law – who placed the 20-year-old outside of his top 100 at ESPN – said, "To a man, every scout or exec I asked about Graterol used some declension of the word 'reliever' in his response." That article is from a year ago. Since then he suffered a major shoulder injury and his value has gone down. Edited February 10, 2020 by nagahide13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 13 hours ago, Slateman said: How is he a known commodity? The Twins dont share medical records and evaluations with all the other teams. Actually, I believe they do. Wasn't there some team a few years ago that got busted for having fake medicals put up on the leaguewide database? I know there is a database for player medicals so that teams don't run into these issues. Maybe it doesn't extend to the minor leagues ? I feel like the team that got popped was either the Cardinals or the braves? I feel like @ramssuperbowl99 would know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, MookieMonstah said: The screenshot, not Carrabis 😂 1. that doesnt rely say what you say it did 2. even if it turns out that tweet is the case, it would prob be smarter on your end if you held off til it was more widely reported by industry guys in the know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, GSUeagles14 said: 1. that doesnt rely say what you say it did 2. even if it turns out that tweet is the case, it would prob be smarter on your end if you held off til it was more widely reported by industry guys in the know. It does... Red Sox aren't getting a light punishment if they had some elaborate cheating scheme. It doesn't matter though. You want the Red Sox to be guilty so you'll spin zone whatever you want to make it true tbh. Its pretty clear Cora was the scape goat for the Astros though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, nagahide13 said: It's entirely possible that Boston viewed him as a starter, however nobody else did. He's a 2 pitch guy with a "fire hydrant" body type and an injury history. http://twinsdaily.com/articles.html/_/minnesota-twins-news/minnesota-twins-minor-leagues/twins-daily-2019-top-prospects-3-brusdar-graterol-r7517 That article is from a year ago. Since then he suffered a major shoulder injury and his value has gone down. I mean, the first 3 scouting reports I read on Graterol talked about his upside as a starting pitcher. The Red Sox viewed him as a potential SP moving forward, obviously something in the medical spooked them so they backed out. The Dodgers aren't worried about it, likely because they dont need a SP like the Red Sox do. If Graterol ends up being a bullpen arm for them they will be more than fine, the Red Sox couldn't afford to take on a SP prospect as one of the center pieces of a Mookie deal and have him end up as a bullpen arm. People acting like this is some shady move by the Red Sox are completely out of touch with reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Also Red Sox already got cooked by completing Pomeranz trade after they saw stuff they didn’t love on his medical. Doubt they’ll be making the same mistake twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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