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6 minutes ago, DoleINGout said:

QB: Tom Brady
RB: Curtis Martin
RB: Jim Nance
WR: Stanley Morgan
WR: Wes Welker
TE: Rob Gronkowski
LT: Bruce Armstrong
LG: John Hannah
C: Jon Morris
RG: Logan Mankins
RT: Matt Light

DE: Willie McGinest
DT: Vince Wilfork
DT: Richard Seymour
DE: Mike Vrabel
LB: Andre Tippett
LB: Tedy Bruschi
LB: Chris Slade
CB: Mike Haynes
FS: Devin McCourty
SS: Rodney Harrison
CB: Ty Law

K: Adam Vinatieri
P: Jake Bailey

HC: Bill Belichick

@m haynes @Yin-Yang @Troy Brown Care to elaborate or edit this?

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Panthers.

QB- Cam Newton

RB- CMC, Jonathan Stewart

FB- Brad Hoover

WR- Steve Smith

WR- Mushin Muhammad

Slot WR- Ted Ginn(lol)

TE- Greg Olson, Wesley Walls

LT-Jordan Gross

LG-Travelle Wharton

C- Ryan Kalil

RG- Trai Turner

RT- Jeff Otah

 

RE- Julius Peppers, Kevin Greene

NT- Kris Jenkins

UT- Kawaan Short

LE- Charles Johnson, Greg Hardy

 

LOLB- Thomas Davis

MLB- Luke Keuchly, Dan Morgan (Tough between him and Beason)

ROLB- Will Witherspoon.

 

CB- Chris Gamble

FS- Deon Grant

SS- Mike Minter

CB- Josh Norman

Nickel CB- Ricky Manning

 

K- John Kasay

PR/KR- Michael Bates

 

That would be a dope team.

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13 minutes ago, Troy Brown said:

It's pretty on. I'd go Edelman over Welker due to his clutch plays in the postseason but Brady has made a lot of receivers so 

Also not many franchises would have a player like Ben Coates not be their best tight end in history 

Welker had basically six consecutive 1000+ yard seasons, was equally competent as a returner, didn’t drop or fumble like Edelman, and was more durable. Better receiver overall, but Edelman did have more clutch moments. To me, Edelman over Welker is like Hightower over Slade. There is an argument but... not the strongest one.

@m haynes @Yin-Yang @Deadpulse thoughts?

 

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PACKERS

QB: Aaron Rodgers
RB: Jim Taylor
RB: Paul Hornung
WR: Don Hutson
WR: Sterling Sharpe
TE: Paul Coffman
LT: Chad Clifton
LG: Gale Gillingham
C: Jim Ringo
RG: Jerry Kramer
RT: Forrest Gregg

DE: Reggie White
DT: Henry Jordan
DT: Dave Hanner
DE: Willie Davis
LB: Clay Matthews
LB: Ray Nitschke
LB: Dave Robinson
CB: Herb Adderley
FS: Willie Wood
SS: LeRoy Butler
CB: Charles Woodson

K: Mason Crosby
P: Craig Hentrich

HC: Vince Lombardi

QB: Choose Favre or Starr instead, and I won't argue. Rodgers at his best (2010-2015) is the best QB'ing I've ever seen.

RB: Ahman Green should be on this team. Underrated, but the other guys are Hall of Famers.

WR: James Lofton should be on this team. Donald Driver too. Jordy Nelson would make the 53-man team.

LT: Another good year or two from David Bakhtiari, and he'll push Clifton to second team.

S: If Nick Collins hadn't gotten injured, he was on his way to a LeRoy Butler type career.

Other noteworthy players: OT Ken Ruettgers, OT Mark Tauscher, OG Josh Sitton, OG Marco Rivera, OC Larry McCarren, DE Ezra Johnson, DE Aaron Kampman, DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, DT Gilbert Brown, LB Bill Forester, LB LeRoy Caffey, LB Fred Carr, LB Tim Harris, CB Bob Jeter, CB Willie Buchanon, CB Ken Ellis, S Bobby Dillon, PK Ryan Longwell

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7 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said:

Good list. I think I’d probably lean towards a 3-4 front with Tippett-Bruschi-Hightower-Vrabel, though. Hard to change must else, aside from maybe Welker for Edelman.

Thanks, how do you figure this team stacks up against the rest of the teams?

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12 hours ago, TVScout said:

HOF yes but not as a down lineman. We tried that for a season and it failed. Ware should be on the list as the SOLB. Harvey Martin should be the other DE.

Did I see To Tall Jones

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3 hours ago, DoleINGout said:

@m haynes @Yin-Yang @Troy Brown Care to elaborate or edit this?

3 hours ago, DoleINGout said:

@m haynes @Yin-Yang @Troy Brown Care to elaborate or edit this?


RB: Curtis Martin---------  RB Sam the Bam Cunningham
RB: Jim Nance
WR: Stanley Morgan
WR: Wes Welker  -------------  WR Gino Cappelletti , Troy Brown
TE: Rob Gronkowski
LT: Bruce Armstrong ----      LT  Leon Gray
LG: John Hannah
C: Jon Morris    ----------        C  Pete Brock
RG: Logan Mankins --------   RG Steven Neil ----  He played RG
RT: Matt Light    ---------        RT  Shelby Jorden  ----- He played RT

DE: Willie McGinest
DT: Vince Wilfork   -------  DT Jim Hunt  (its close call)
DT: Richard Seymour
DE: Mike Vrabel -------- DE  Julius Adams
LB: Andre Tippett
LB: Tedy Bruschi
LB: Chris Slade -------          LB  Steve Nelson
CB: Mike Haynes ------ ridiculous , no way :D:D
FS: Devin McCourty
SS: Rodney Harrison
CB: Ty Law

K: Adam Vinatieri
P: Jake Bailey  ------- Ryan Allen

HC: Bill Belichick

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20 minutes ago, m haynes said:


RB: Curtis Martin---------  RB Sam the Bam Cunningham
RB: Jim Nance
WR: Stanley Morgan
WR: Wes Welker  -------------  WR Gino Cappelletti
TE: Rob Gronkowski
LT: Bruce Armstrong ----      LT  Leon Gray
LG: John Hannah
C: Jon Morris    ----------        C  Pete Brock
RG: Logan Mankins --------   RG Steven Neil ----  He played RG
RT: Matt Light    ---------        RT  Shelby Jorden  ----- He played RT

DE: Willie McGinest
DT: Vince Wilfork   -------  DT Jim Hunt  (its close call)
DT: Richard Seymour
DE: Mike Vrabel -------- DE  Julius Adams
LB: Andre Tippett
LB: Tedy Bruschi
LB: Chris Slade -------          LB  Steve Nelson
CB: Mike Haynes ------ ridiculous , no way :D:D
FS: Devin McCourty
SS: Rodney Harrison
CB: Ty Law

K: Adam Vinatieri
P: Jake Bailey  ------- Ryan Allen

HC: Bill Belichick

I could agree with you on:

Cunningham for longevity over Martin.

Gino for overall contributions to the franchise.

Gray as a replacement for Light.

Nelson over Slade in overall accolades.

And Allen over Bailey.

BUT, I disagree on replacing Jon Morris completely based on accolades. Morris was a perennial All Star in six consecutive seasons. Brock never once made a Pro Bowl.

Also, even though Light never played RT, I asked Scarnecchia directly one time if he thought Light could, (seriously), and the answer was a convincing yes. I imagine Mankins could play RG much the same as how he shifted between LT and LG, or Joe Thuney played LT in college, LG for the Pats, and RT week 1 against the Steelers last season. I just took the two best offensive guards and tackles that played that position primarily, regardless of side. So for instance, I would replace Matt Light with Leon Gray, certainly at LT, and move Bruce Armstrong over to LT then, perhaps. Because they all played tackle primarily.

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1 minute ago, DoleINGout said:

I could agree with you on:

Cunningham for longevity over Martin.

Gino for overall contributions to the franchise.

Gray as a replacement for Light.

Nelson over Slade in overall accolades.

And Allen over Bailey.

BUT, I disagree on replacing Jon Morris completely based on accolades. Morris was a perennial All Star in six consecutive seasons. Brock never once made a Pro Bowl.

Also, even though Light never played RT, I asked Scarnecchia one time if he think he could, (seriously), and the answer was a convincing yes. I imagine Mankins could play RG much the same as how he shifted between LT and LG, or Joe Thuney played LT in college, LG for the Pats, and RT week 1 against the Steelers last season. I just took the two best offensive guards and tackles that played that position primarily, regardless of side. So for instance, I would replace Matt Light with Leon Gray, certainly at LT, and move Bruce Armstrong over to LT then, perhaps.

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Jon Morris completely based on accolades. Morris was a perennial All Star in six consecutive seasons. Brock never once made a Pro Bowl. 

  That was a tough one. Morris played in the old league and the quality wasn't the greatest. That's why I went with Brock.

 Light was a better player however he didn't play RT.  That why I went with Jordan. Same with Mankin. I had a hard time leaving many great players off the list. EX Fred Marion at safety but he was a free safety and McCourty was better.  I would replace Rodney with Marion but he didn't play SS.

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On 3/29/2020 at 1:07 AM, kingseanjohn said:

Going to be quite a bit of recency bias I think...

QB: Patrick Mahomes
RB: Jamaal Charles
RB: Priest Holmes
WR: Tyreek Hill
WR: Otis Taylor
TE: Tony Gonzalez
LT: Willie Roaf
LG: Brian Waters
C: Tim Grunhard
RG: Will Shields
RT: Mitchell Schwartz

DE: Derrick Thomas
DT: Chris Jones
DT: Buck Buchanan
DE: Jared Allen
LB: Derrick Johnson
LB: Willie Lanier
LB: Bobby Bell
CB:  Albert Lewis
FS: Deron Cherry
SS: Eric Berry
CB:  Emmitt Thomas

K: Jan Stenerud
P: Dustin Colquitt

HC: Andy Reid

 

Didn't turn out as expected. A couple DE/LB arguments could be made. I'd also almost argue Kelce over Gonzalez. He's on pace to have better stats all around. But it's just a pace and Tony is in the HOF already so he wins.

Len Dawson QB.  Mahomes just started.  He off to a good start:D

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3 minutes ago, m haynes said:

EX Fred Marion at safety but he was a free safety and McCourty was better.  I would replace Rodney with Marion but he didn't play SS.

Yeah, i feel OG to OG and OT to OT regardless of side is different than FS to SS and vice versa.

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