beekay414 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, hitnhope said: The sample size is too small to draw any real solid conclusion. Your efficiency point is no more solid than the point that he hurts the running TD output. It isn't trolling to not agree with everything the Packers did last weekend. So 5.0 YPC over the course of 12 games isn't enough to draw a conclusion that he drastically effects the running game? 25% of the season, which apparently isn't enough time to evaluate how effective someone is, they were a subpar rushing offense and he happened to be out of the lineup during that stretch. With Juice, they averaged under 4 YPC two times in 12 games. Without him? 3 times in 4 games. But sure, we don't have enough of a sample size to prove one way or another. 13 minutes ago, hitnhope said: Picking try hard guys How do you watch the tape and come away with Deguara as a try hard guy? This isn't John Kuhn. Try hard guys don't get lined up all over the offense and do it effectively. Whether you want to admit it or not, Deguara is a skill player. The tape shows it. Edited April 29, 2020 by beekay414 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, hitnhope said: I really like the player, if acquired in the proper spot. What spot would that be? The fourth round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnhope Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, Leader said: What spot would that be? The fourth round? Start thinking about players like this in the 5th - 7th. If he's not available then, find another similar type player that is available. There were more impactful positions of need, and surer bets in the 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, hitnhope said: There were more impactful positions of need, and surer bets in the 3rd. And you know this...how exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, hitnhope said: No. Rationalization is the forum words at the moment. People are posting like love is likely to become great. What are the real odds? 10% is closer than likely. The sample size is too small to draw any real solid conclusion. Your efficiency point is no more solid than the point that he hurts the running TD output. It isn't trolling to not agree with everything the Packers did last weekend. Picking try hard guys that have below average size, and average athleticism at non impact positions is not how you build teams. These should be late round picks. I really like the player, if acquired in the proper spot. How is TE not an impact position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, spilltray said: How is TE not an impact position? Because he doesn't know what H-Back means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: did you not remember SF in 2019? Or Baltimore or the Titans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Instead of Juszcyk, think Chris Cooley. They are listing him at TE not FB for a reason, I really think that's more the type of H-Back they envision him as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 30 minutes ago, hitnhope said: No. Rationalization is the forum words at the moment. People are posting like love is likely to become great. What are the real odds? 10% is closer than likely. The sample size is too small to daw any real solid conclusion. Your efficiency point is no more solid than the point that he hurts the running TD output. It isn't trolling to not agree with everything the Packers did last weekend. Picking try hard guys that have below average size, and average athleticism at non impact positions is not how you build teams. These should be late round picks. I really like the player, if acquired in the proper spot. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Obviously the Packers valued their draft pick beauties more than you did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 41 minutes ago, hitnhope said: No. Rationalization is the forum words at the moment. People are posting like love is likely to become great. What are the real odds? 10% is closer than likely. The sample size is too small to draw any real solid conclusion. Your efficiency point is no more solid than the point that he hurts the running TD output. It isn't trolling to not agree with everything the Packers did last weekend. Picking try hard guys that have below average size, and average athleticism at non impact positions is not how you build teams. These should be late round picks. I really like the player, if acquired in the proper spot. Not asking you to agree with it, but to discuss in good faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 One of Jace/Josiah will eventually get to the pro bowl for us. Can’t have three straight busts at the same position in the same round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnhope Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, deathstar said: Not asking you to agree with it, but to discuss in good faith. That's what I did. You didn't like it. I don't think this was the best use of resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Flat out, anybody that watches Deguara and identifies him as a "try hard" is someone whose opinions you shouldn't put any stock into. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: One of Jace/Josiah will eventually get to the pro bowl for us. Can’t have three straight busts at the same position in the same round. I was going to bring up Randall, Ahmad Carroll, and Terrell Buckley but there's an Antuan Edwards in there and he was merely mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitnhope Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Flat out, anybody that watches Deguara and identifies him as a "try hard" is someone whose opinions you shouldn't put any stock into. What part of his profile says that you throw away positional value because of traits? 6'2" tall, 245 lbs, 31 5/8 arms, 7.15 3 cone. So he is short, with average speed and quickness. Average stats in a lower level conference. Made an impression with hustle. He is a nice player to get in the later rounds. There were good players at more impacting positions for the 3rd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.