NYRaider Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Interesting better roster but not better production interesting Derek has had better production, David was absolutely cheeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 14 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: That said, the differences in the roster and coaching are slightly in Derek's favor. Slightly? The Texans were absolutely terrible for years as an expansion franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Interesting better roster but not better production interesting hmm, again I dont know a ton about those Texans teams. But Derek has produced better. Davids 5 years in Hou; 4-12 9td 15 int 5.8 y/a 3-8 9td 13int 6.8 7-9 16td 14int 7.6 2-14 14td 11int 5.9 6-10 11td 12int 6.3 Dereks first 5 3-13 21 td 12int 5.5 y/a 7-9 32 / 13 7 12-3 28/6 7 6-9 22/13 6.8 4-12 19/10 7.3 David Carr total 22w/53L = .293 Win Rate, 59 TDs, 65 INTs, 0.9 TDs/ INT, Average yards / attempt = 6.48 Derek Carr total 32w/46L - .41 Win rate, 122 Tds, 54 Ints, 2.26 TDs / INT, Average yards / attempt = 6.72 - That is clearly better production by Derek, any reason why you say David produced better? or just because Derek has more losses then David? Thats absured logic because David only played 5 seasons whereas Carr has played 7. Derek Carr has less losses than Brett Favre, so has Derek produced more then Favre? lol no. Edited June 3, 2021 by BackinBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: Slightly? The Texans were absolutely terrible for years as an expansion franchise. On the whole, yes. Going season by season on an individual basis, we've had some atrocious teams too. There were a couple of the years the Texans arguably had talent than at least 1 or 2 of Derek's Raider teams. Not much, and certainly not early on, but there was a little bit to be had. Some of the garbage we've trotted out had no business calling themselves an NFL football 'team'. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, BackinBlack said: hmm, again I dont know a ton about those Texans teams. But Derek has produced better. Davids 5 years in Hou; 4-12 9td 15 int 5.8 y/a 3-8 9td 13int 6.8 7-9 16td 14int 7.6 2-14 14td 11int 5.9 6-10 11td 12int 6.3 Dereks first 5 3-13 21 td 12int 5.5 y/a 7-9 32 / 13 7 12-3 28/6 7 6-9 22/13 6.8 4-12 19/10 7.3 David Carr total 22w/53L = .293 Win Rate, 59 TDs, 65 INTs, 0.9 TDs/ INT, Average yards / attempt = 6.48 Derek Carr total 32w/46L - .41 Win rate, 122 Tds, 54 Ints, 2.26 TDs / INT, Average yards / attempt = 6.72 - That is clearly better production by Derek, any reason why you say David produced better? or just because Derek has more losses then David? Thats absured logic because David only played 5 seasons whereas Carr has played 7. Derek Carr has less losses than Brett Favre, so has Derek produced more then Favre? lol no. Talking about wins/losses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/1/2021 at 2:46 PM, NYRaider said: because its all on the QB smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 20 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Whose roster would you say was better during their respective durations? the fact youre trying to compare Derek's situation to an expansion team tells you all you need to know about what DCs had to work with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Talking about wins/losses David Carr total 22w/53L = .293 Win Rate Derek Carr total 32w/46L - .41 Win rate Derek Carr again out performed. Lets say in those 3 extra games Derek Carr played compared to David, David hypothetically wouldve won all 3, and thrown 20 TDs, in each of them with no INTs, every stat would still be better for DC LOL Edited June 3, 2021 by BackinBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) I just cannot see any way statistically, you can say David performed better. His best year was with 7 wins, compared to Dereks best 12. His worst was 2 wins compared to Dereks 3. Literally, saying David performed better, is just pure spite against Derek. Bevause nothing shows that. Unless you are counting only losses, in which derek played 7 seasons to Davids 5. . . so of course he has more lol I have performed better than Tom Brady, because I have never lost in the NFL. Does that statement sound crazy to you? or something you would debate? haha Edited June 3, 2021 by BackinBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 53 minutes ago, Geezy said: the fact youre trying to compare Derek's situation to an expansion team tells you all you need to know about what DCs had to work with. Lol so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Geezy said: the fact youre trying to compare Derek's situation to an expansion team tells you all you need to know about what DCs had to work with. Lol who are we allowed to compare him to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 hours ago, BackinBlack said: David Carr total 22w/53L = .293 Win Rate Derek Carr total 32w/46L - .41 Win rate Derek Carr again out performed. Lets say in those 3 extra games Derek Carr played compared to David, David hypothetically wouldve won all 3, and thrown 20 TDs, in each of them with no INTs, every stat would still be better for DC LOL You’re right he was only in hou for 5 years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) lol you cant compare derek's supporting casts to david's. maybe you could compare the skill players derek had in year 1... but thats really about it, and even that is pushing it Edited June 4, 2021 by Turnobili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 12:21 PM, ronjon1990 said: There were a couple of the years the Texans arguably had talent than at least 1 or 2 of Derek's Raider teams. Not much, and certainly not early on, but there was a little bit to be had. Some of the garbage we've trotted out had no business calling themselves an NFL football 'team'. Lol 2014 he had Andre Holmes, James Jones, and Brice Butler as his leading receivers, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Derek better than David there isn't even an argument, so I didn't even bother to go back and read who started it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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