Dr. Philly Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 minute ago, El Ramster said: Tobias can score in the regular season. It’s not that bad and he’s a solid player. Now in the postseason? That’s another story. But he’s ok.. Als going to be 37 and getting paid 25 Mil. Dudes going to be playing 12 Mins per game and getting paid a ish load. No ones taking that. Unless you add a insane amount of picks. Tobias adds zero value to a team that has a desire to win. Horford at least shown he can be a cog in multiple playoff teams that have made a run. Again, the last year of Horford's deal, he makes less than $15 million. We've seen worse contracts traded alone this season. His is movable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 *If Houston gets bounced by OKC, how about Harden straight up for Simmons?? Philly gets to pair two much better fits, and Houston builds with still a very young talent.. WHO says No?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: *If Houston gets bounced by OKC, how about Harden straight up for Simmons?? Philly gets to pair two much better fits, and Houston builds with still a very young talent.. WHO says No?? Houston. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 26 minutes ago, Dr. Philly said: Tobias adds zero value to a team that has a desire to win. Horford at least shown he can be a cog in multiple playoff teams that have made a run. Again, the last year of Horford's deal, he makes less than $15 million. We've seen worse contracts traded alone this season. His is movable. I just don’t see it 😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, resilient part 2 said: *If Houston gets bounced by OKC, how about Harden straight up for Simmons?? Philly gets to pair two much better fits, and Houston builds with still a very young talent.. WHO says No?? Houston definitely says no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 13 hours ago, resilient part 2 said: *If Houston gets bounced by OKC, how about Harden straight up for Simmons?? Philly gets to pair two much better fits, and Houston builds with still a very young talent.. WHO says No?? Houston says no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensTillIDie Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 If the 76ers really are trying to clean house and want to continue to build around Embiid and Simmons, I wonder if they might do this trade?Hornets Receive: -Al Horford -Tobias HarrisSixers Receive: -Terry Rozier -Nicolas Batum -PJ Washington -Cody Zeller -2020 1st Round Pick Hornets receive some much needed star power and strong veteran leadership. Sixers clear those contracts off their books and open up a ton of cap space for a 3rd star in the (potentially) stacked 2021-2022 free agency class, while still staying a playoff contender next year. Hornets: Graham Monk/Martin Bridges/Martin Harris/McDaniels HorfordSixers: Rozier/Milton Richardson/Thybulle Simmons/Batum/{Draft Pick} Washington/Scott Embiid/Zeller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 6 hours ago, RavensTillIDie said: If the 76ers really are trying to clean house and want to continue to build around Embiid and Simmons, I wonder if they might do this trade?Hornets Receive: -Al Horford -Tobias HarrisSixers Receive: -Terry Rozier -Nicolas Batum -PJ Washington -Cody Zeller -2020 1st Round Pick Hornets receive some much needed star power and strong veteran leadership. Sixers clear those contracts off their books and open up a ton of cap space for a 3rd star in the (potentially) stacked 2021-2022 free agency class, while still staying a playoff contender next year. Hornets: Graham Monk/Martin Bridges/Martin Harris/McDaniels HorfordSixers: Rozier/Milton Richardson/Thybulle Simmons/Batum/{Draft Pick} Washington/Scott Embiid/Zeller i really looked like 5 times to make sure, but who is this Star power Hornets are getting?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 9/1/2020 at 9:51 PM, El Ramster said: I just don’t see it 😐 Me either. Only way somebody is taking hortford is if you willing to take a bad contract back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensTillIDie Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: i really looked like 5 times to make sure, but who is this Star power Hornets are getting?? Lol. You don't think Harris and Horford are better than any player currently on the Hornets roster? Moreover, you think they could possibly attract bigger/better players in free agency to Charlotte? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 10 hours ago, RavensTillIDie said: Lol. You don't think Harris and Horford are better than any player currently on the Hornets roster? Moreover, you think they could possibly attract bigger/better players in free agency to Charlotte? No. Horford is a borderline negative asset right now and Tobias has way too big of a contract. Charlotte is just finally about to get out of cap hell with no terrible contracts and this trade would put them right back in it for 4 more years. Harris would be their best player, but that's not a good reason to make a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensTillIDie Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: No. Horford is a borderline negative asset right now and Tobias has way too big of a contract. Charlotte is just finally about to get out of cap hell with no terrible contracts and this trade would put them right back in it for 4 more years. Harris would be their best player, but that's not a good reason to make a trade. Do you realistically believe Charlotte can smartly develop a contender in the next 4 years solely through draft picks and the types of free agents they are likely to attract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, RavensTillIDie said: Do you realistically believe Charlotte can smartly develop a contender in the next 4 years solely through draft picks and the types of free agents they are likely to attract? No, but what good are Horford and Harris going to do? No guarantee they even make the playoffs with those 2 eating up over half of their cap space, but they won't bottom out either. And also trading 2 lottery picks? Just no good reason for this trade. Edited September 3, 2020 by seminoles1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winitall Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: No, but what good are Horford and Harris going to do? No guarantee they even make the playoffs with those 2 eating up over half of their cap space, but they won't bottom out either. And also trading 2 lottery picks? Just no good reason for this trade. Yeah I don’t think that trade makes any sense either. Charlotte trading the #3 pick and a rookie that showed promise for two negative assets would be absolutely terrible. They take on more salary, lose young pieces, and are still not anywhere close to a contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensTillIDie Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 41 minutes ago, winitall said: Yeah I don’t think that trade makes any sense either. Charlotte trading the #3 pick and a rookie that showed promise for two negative assets would be absolutely terrible. They take on more salary, lose young pieces, and are still not anywhere close to a contender. I disagree. At least in the sense they are not a playoff contender with that roster. In hindsight, maybe the lottery pick is unnecessary to facilitate this trade. However, if the Hornets were the 10th seed this year w/ their current roster, and both the 7th and 8th seeds had losing records, I don't see how they don't at least get the 8th seed in the east with Horford and Harris. Hell, if they keep that draft pick and are able to land a player like Edwards, that is a SIGNIFICANTLY improved team from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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