Empire Lies Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, NateDawg said: I wouldn’t forsake the defense in the draft by any means and that is where a lot of our needs clearly are. But I am hoping we can fill some of those voids in free agency and would consider getting some young offensive play makers in the fold. Particularly at receiver and a future starting potential offensive lineman. I see some veterans out there that will not be on this roster much longer. Also, we need to really see year five what Baker can do with decent WRs, as we continue to see somewhat of a mash group. OBJ is also out the door and Jarvis’ future is somewhat an unknown. With 3 returning young WR talents: DPJ (Boundary, Possession WR), Demetric Felton (Slot WR), and Anthony Schwartz (Boundary, Speed WR) AND and the possibility of 3 returning Vets: Jarvis, OBJ, and Rashard Higgins (less likely), I just don't see a WR being a necessary high round investment especially when the Browns don't have any currently returning solutions at Edge, FS, or LB. Contractually speaking, I doubt Jarvis or OBJ is gone next year. I don't think the Browns will be able to find a quality FS, Edge, or LB in free agency given the guys that are set to be available and the Browns analytic guard rails. They've already committed big money to JJ3, I doubt they give out big money to a Tyran Mathieu or Marcus Maye type, but I could be wrong. At LB and Edge, there aren't really options as well and I don't think the Browns can commit big money to Clowney or Takk or rely on them to be the guy opposite of Myles. Baker has all the offensive talent a top paid QB needs to succeed and most top paid QBs are expected to succeed with less. I do think he could benefit from a better TE1 and quality depth at OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Lies Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Where’s the fix for the OL? Even if you plan on resigning Teller, Hubbard is gone and not bringing in at least one OL would be criminal. Personally I think a day 1/2 IOL prospect and a day 3 OT are necessary. Indeed. That makes sense. 39 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Ward is back next season as we’ve already picked up his 5th year. That means we’d have our top 5 corners all coming back and tbh they’re talented enough. The scheme needs fixed. I think next April we’d be better served focusing resources elsewhere. Yeah, I didn't mean he's moving on after this year but like Jack Conklin he'll be gone after next imo and at such a vital necessary position contingency planning has to happen this offseason. Definitely makes more sense to devote an early resource 1st rounder to EDGE over CB, but out of what I believe are the Browns other need positions like MLB, FS, Backup OT, and Reliable CB1, it makes more sense to spend a 2nd round or 3rd rounder on CB just because of positional value. You are right though that with Denzel Ward, Greg Newsome II, Greedy Williams, Troy Hill, and AJ Green returning, it might make more sense to go FS or OT in a round 2. I think they resign Teller for sure and Blake Hance and Michael Dunn are believed to be viable interior options in the two deep interior. At some point, the Browns need to address the Center positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 You can legitimately justify a Top selection at any position except for RB and maybe Safety in the upcoming draft. If you are letting Teller walk in free agency, and if Tretter, Bitonio, Conklin and Ward go within the next two years, that leaves holes in the interior OL (BIG TIME) and on the outside as a CB, pending Greedy's future and Newsome's production. If Harrison leaves and Delpit or LeCounte aren't log term answers, then Safety needs addressed. Throw in major needs at the WR position (regardless IMO) with OBJ and Landry gone, even if you re-sign Higgins (who is a fine #3 receiver), potential depth at RB with Hunt leaving (likely) after that, and then you still have EDGE need opposite Myles and certainly depth regardless, and glaring holes at the ILB positions and/or a complement to JOK. The interior DL could also be addressed beside Malik McDowell, pending whatever happens with Tommy T. I still believe Felton is more of an "X Factor" type that has value as a RB and flex guy vs. a traditional RB#2, and Schwartz is a virtual unknown as a WR, similar to our young OL guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 Isaiah Foskey has been a monster for Notre Dame this year at DE. He’s obviously not Garrett / Clowney level, but he has a similar level frame and athleticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/21/2021 at 8:44 AM, MWil23 said: Tretter, Bitonio, Conklin Tretter and conk are the only ones worth letting walk. I would want Jed, Bit, and Teller to be our core of the OL. I would try and keep Tretter until it’s time to sign Jed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, buno67 said: Tretter and conk are the only ones worth letting walk. I would want Jed, Bit, and Teller to be our core of the OL. I would try and keep Tretter until it’s time to sign Jed. Try to keep everybody before Jed gets paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 I think we need an OT in the 3rd round. Our entire offense for the time being revolves around our offensive line play. I want Hudson at OG long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 14 hours ago, candyman93 said: Try to keep everybody before Jed gets paid. Depends how things play out. Maybe replace Tretter this year depending on the draft and Conklin next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, buno67 said: Conklin next year Disagree on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 I’ve gotta put Isaiah Foskey above Myjai Sanders. The kid is just an athletic freak and I’ll be shocked if he’s not considered a top 10 pick at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 First round leal dt Texas am 2nd round Zach Harrison 6feet 6 inches 265 pounds runs a 4.4 fourty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 16 hours ago, mtmmike said: First round leal dt Texas am 2nd round Zach Harrison 6feet 6 inches 265 pounds runs a 4.4 fourty. Sign me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 Kinda surprised Quote The Browns have drafted just one WR in the first round in the last 15 years, and that was Corey Coleman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Kinda surprised I still don’t think they should tbh. You can scheme a WR open, draft the positions that are harder to compensate for poor play with scheming in R1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDD Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 10/30/2021 at 10:20 PM, mtmmike said: First round leal dt Texas am 2nd round Zach Harrison 6feet 6 inches 265 pounds runs a 4.4 fourty. If Zach Harrison is drafted before the 4th round I'd be shocked. Dude has workout warrior all over him. If LJ can't get him to be one of the best DE in the country, he isn't going to be one in the NFL. I could be wrong because the physical side is there, the actual game play isn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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