Johnny Nix Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, INbengalfan said: Agree with the top 3. Would have Slater at the top of the tier 2 guys. If not Chase, I don't think we need to grab a WR in the first. Waddle is legit tho. The only thing that worries me is drafting another “injured” 1st rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Johnny Nix said: Waddle is legit tho. The only thing that worries me is drafting another “injured” 1st rounder. I love Waddle. I love an upright Burrow in the pocket even more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 minute ago, INbengalfan said: I love Waddle. I love an upright Burrow in the pocket even more If they sign some guys in FA on the OL you still want Sewell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Johnny Nix said: If they sign some guys in FA on the OL you still want Sewell? YES. Because I don't think they sign OTs. Moton tagged. Trent Williams will garner over $20 mill per. FA interior linemen would be my route, then draft the OT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, INbengalfan said: YES. Because I don't think they sign OTs. Moton tagged. Trent Williams will garner over $20 mill per. FA interior linemen would be my route, then draft the OT I’m not against it, but if they signed a decent RT, I would be open to Chase and other weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Johnny Nix said: I’m not against it, but if they signed a decent RT, I would be open to Chase and other weapons I would be too. It's not like Jonah is a terrible LT. But I want the best line possible. Say they sign a top OG like Thuney. Sewell-Thuney-Hopkins (Price)- Spain/XSF-Jonah sounds great. If they double dipped in the second on a RT or traded/signed a guy Sewell-Thuney-Hopkins-Jonah-RT (Haverstein in trade, draft p[ick, whatever) I'd love Chase here. In my mock the other day, I made a crazy push for a trade with Philly if both Sewell and Chase made it to 5, attempting to trade for 6. If they getb another OT, then Chase would be a perfect pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Sewell or Chase are the only guys I'd take at 5, there are a plethora of guys i'd be happy with in the 9-12 range while picking up a 2nd rd pick (Slater, Darrisaw, Pitts, Farley, Parsons is a lot easier to accept at that range as opposed to top 5, Rousseau, and Surtain would all be solid picks after a trade down. That's seven guys right there , so if you stay top 12, you are guaranteed one of them and any of them can be justified. Parsons is still probably the bottom of that list for me. Jake from Locked On Bengals made a compelling argument that if you draft Sewell, putting him at RT may not be the worst idea. The AFC North has several elite pass rushers who rush from the left side of the defense or rotate pretty evenly between sides like Garrett does. Jonah is settled at LT and the blind side vs strong side doesn't mean as much as it used to. Plus, Sewell hasn't played in over a year, so Jonah may be the better pass blocker in 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 This week's fun with the PFN simulator. I trade down with Chase their at 5 since it's only to 7, and I pick up 41, and then Detroit takes Waddle at 5. 7. Ja'Marr Chase WR LSU 41. Ronnie Perkins EDGE Oklahoma 44. Greg Newsome II CB Northwestern 69. Dillon Radunz OT North Dakota State 101. Adrian Ealy OT Oklahoma 111. Marlon Tuipulotu DT USC 140. Daelin Hayes EDGE Notre Dame 150. David Moore OG Grambling State 231. Evan McPherson K Florida 233. Ian Book QB Notre Dame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson4MVP Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Is it just me or is it crazy how far off all of these companies are with their mock draft simulators? Both in terms of trade value and prospect rankings. Like on PFF, you can get a 1, 2, and 3 this year and a 1 and 2 each of the next 2 years to move back 4 spots from 5 to 9. On PFN, you are lucky to get a 2nd moving back like 6-7 spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson4MVP Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just now, Carson4MVP said: Is it just me or is it crazy how far off all of these companies are with their mock draft simulators? Both in terms of trade value and prospect rankings. Like on PFF, you can get a 1, 2, and 3 this year and a 1 and 2 each of the next 2 years to move back 4 spots from 5 to 9. On PFN, you are lucky to get a 2nd moving back like 6-7 spots. Maybe as we get a little closer to the draft, the shot groupings on prospect rankings will tighten a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 PFN's is much closer to reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Bristow Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 11 hours ago, THE DUKE said: PFN's is much closer to reality. I think there's a premium at the top of the draft they don't account for and just stuck really close to the chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 37 minutes ago, Beck Bristow said: I think there's a premium at the top of the draft they don't account for and just stuck really close to the chart. I think most over rate that premium. The only huge premium anyone would give up this year is for Lawrence, and Jacksonville isn't budging (and rightfully so). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I think teams like Carolina, Denver, or San Fran would be willing to pay to get a QB. If the first 4 picks are 2 QBs, a WR, and Sewell, then we should have a trade partner to move down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 What are everyone's thoughts on Edge this draft? Even if we can keep Lawson (which is in doubt), I still think we need another one with Hubbard's ceiling being a 8-10 sack guy with most years more likely being in the 3-6 range (2 last year was a bit of an oof). Round 1 - About the only rd 1 edge I would be comfortable with would be Rousseau, and that would be after a trade down out of the top 10. Paye has some promise, but it's not a 1st rd pick that I would be super excited about, and not someone I take in the top 15. Round 2 - This is where I think we are most likely to take an edge rusher as I think one of Carlos Basham, Ronnie Perkins, Jaelan Phillips, and maybe Jayson Oweh make a lot of sense. Oweh has the most upside of this group, but he also has the lowest floor. Round 3 - Here is where it starts to get thin. In this range I'd like Patrick Jones, Quincy Roche, or Rashad Weaver as guys who could eventually be impact players Day 3 - Here is where you are just looking at guys with maybe one good trait you hope you can build on and really won't be more than depth right away. Victor Dimukeje, Shaka Toney, Daelin Hayes, Janarius Robinson, Jonathan Cooper, and a host of smaller school guys I don't know much about. I think rd 1 edge is the least likely, but i'd be shocked if we don't take one on day 2. If Rousseau can put it all together, he could be a lead the league in sacks kind of guy, but it's by no means a sure thing, and I think we get Burrow either protection or a weapon in rd 1 (Sewell, Chase, Pitts, or trade down for Darrisaw or if one of the big 3 WR slips a little) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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