Jump to content

ProFootballFocus Top/Bottom at every position, as of Week 13 2020


TheKillerNacho

Recommended Posts

A disclaimer: I do not own a PFF subscription but my friend does and sent me this list to post it. PFF is obviously flawed, and in some cases downright laughable, I do not necessarily share their opinions on the top/worst players. Still, this should be interesting. Keep in mind their new player grade scale lists players via a 1-100 format. Also keep in mind that players who do not have a certain Snap % are not included (not sure what exactly the minimum snap count is... I think its like 25%).

QUARTERBACK

Top 6:
1. Aaron Rodgers 93.1
2. Patrick Mahomes 92.0
3. Russell Wilson 91.6
4. Deshaun Watson 91.4
5. Kirk Cousins 89.5
6. Tom Brady 89.0

Bottom 6:
1. Dwayne Haskins 46.7
2. Sam Darnold 54.7
3. Nick Mullens 55.2
4. Joe Flacco 55.8
5. Drew Lock 57.0
6. Tua Tagovailoa 57.6

RUNNINGBACK

Top 7:
1. Damien Harris 90.8
2. Derrick Henry 89.0
3. Dalvin Cook 86.3
4a. Chris Carson 83.2
4b. Nick Chubb 83.2
6. Darrell Henderson 83.0
7. Alvin Kamara 81.9

Bottom 7:
1. Brian Hill 53.3
2. Todd Gurley 54.6
3. Chris Thompson 54.9
4. Adrian Peterson 55.6
5. Dion Lewis 56.1
6. David Johnson 56.9
7. Kalen Ballage 58.1

FULLBACK

Top 5:
1. Anthony Sherman 73.6
2. Andy Janovich 68.5
3. Elijhaa Penny 64.5
4. Kyle Juszczyk 63.9
5. Michael Burton 62.7

Bottom 5:
1. Bruce Miller 35.2
2. Nick Bellore 42.4
3. Derek Watt 42.9
4. Chandler Cox 45.0
5. Jakob Johnson 51.1

WIDE RECEIVER

Top 7:
1. Davante Adams 92.0
2. Justin Jefferson 90.1
3. Adam Thielen 90.0
4. Will Fuller 86.2
5. Keenan Allen 86.1
6. Corey Davis 85.9
7a. Julio Jones 85.5
7b. DeAndre Hopkins 85.5

Bottom 7:
1. Jalen Guyton 51.5
2. Jeff Smith 52.7
3. John Hightower 53.0
4. Trent Taylor 53.9
5. Christian Blake 54.2
6. Chris Hogan 56.1
7. Kalif Raymond 56.4

TIGHT END

Top 5:
1. Travis Kelce 92.0
2. Richard Rodgers 88.9
3. Mo Alie-Cox 83.5
4. George Kittle 79.7
5. Mark Andrews 77.2

Bottom 5:
1. Luck Stocker 42.7
2. Ian Thomas 44.2
3. Tyler Conklin 45.9
4. Nick Keizer 49.2
5. Vance McDonald 50.1

OFFENSIVE TACKLE

Top 6:
1. David Bakhtiari 90.6
2. Trent Williams 90.0
3. Garett Bolles 89.4
4. Andrew Whitworth 88.7
5. Duane Brown 88.5
6. Michael Onwenu 87.5

Bottom 6:
1. Brandon PArker 48.8
2. Trey Pipkins 48.9
3. Terence Steele 49.7
4. Joseph Noteboom 51.7
5a. Cameron Fleming 55.0
5b. Austin Jackson 55.0

OFFENSIVE GUARD

Top 6:
1. Wyatt Teller 93.9
2. Zack Martin 91.3
3. Shaq Mason 84.8
4. Joel Bitonio 84.3
5. Brandon Scherff 82.5
6. Ali Marpet 78.5

Bottom 6:
1. Shane Lemiux 31.9
2. Dru Samia 33.7
3. Trai Turner 40.5
4. Alex Bars 42.6
5. Wes Martin 45.1
6. Tyre Phillips 45.4

CENTER

Top 5:
1. Corey Linsley 89.8
2. Brandon Linder 79.5
3. J.C. Tretter 76.9
4. Frank Ragnow 75.2
5. Chase Roullier 74.2

Bottom 5:
1. Lloyd Cushenberry 37.6
2. Dan Feeney 44.8
3. Hroniss Grasu 50.6
4. Matt Skura 51.5
5. Tyler Biadasz 53.3

CORNERBACK

Top 7:
1. Xavien Howard 86.6
2. Bryce Callahan 84.1
3. Darious Williams 80.9
4. Jaire Alexander 80.6
5. Jason Verrett 79.8
6. Cameron Sutton 78.2
7. Jimmy Smith 77.6

Bottom 7:
1. Noah Igbinoghene 31.4
2. Chris Jackson 34.0
3. Kendall Sheffield 36.2
4. Troy Pride 38.2
5. Desmond Trufant 38.4
6a. Avonte Maddox 39.0
6b. Rock Ya-Sin 39.0

SAFETY

Top 7:
1. Jessie Bates 90.9
2. Justin Simmons 86.5
3. John Johnson 84.9
4. Marcus Maye 82.1
5. Minkah Fitzpatrick 78.3
6. Budda Baker 77.0
7. Jimmie Ward 76.6

Bottom 7:
1. Darian Thompson 36.0
2. P.J. Williams 37.0
3. Johnathan Abram 40.8
4. Bradley McDougald 41.0
5. Andrew Sendejo 43.3
6. Terrence Brooks 46.5
7. Jayron Kearse 46.9

LINEBACKER

Top 7:
1. Bobby Wagner 87.1
2. Myles Jackon 82.8
3. Eric Kendricks 82.6
4. Nick Nwiatkoski 81.2
5. Fred Warner 80.6
6. Lavonte David 80.4
7. Denzel Perryman 79.7

Bottom 7:
1. Patrick Queen 28.3
2. Elandon Roberts 28.4
3. Tahir Whitehead 29.1
4. Kenny Young 32.4
5. Jahlani Tavai 32.5
6. Mack Wilson 34.6
7. Christian Kirksey 36.7

"EDGE DEFENDER"

Top 7:
1. T.J. Watt 91.8
2. Khalil Mack 91.6
3. Demarcus Lawrence 90.2
4. Joey Bosa 89.8
5. Myles Garrett 86.6
6. Brandon Graham 84.5
7. Trey Flowers 83.3

Bottom 7:
1. Whitney Mercilus 42.6
2. K'Lavon Chaisson 46.9
3. Amani Bledsoe 48.2
4. Benson Mayowa 49.8
5. Marquis Haynes 49.9
6. Zach Allen 51.0
7. Shilique Calhoun 51.8

"INTERIOR DEFENDER"

Top 7:
1. Aaron Donald 93.2
2. Vita Vea 90.3
3. Cameron Heyward 89.7
4. DeForest Buckner 89.6
5. Tyson Alualu 89.4
6. Chris Jones 88.9
7. Jeffery Simmons 88.7

Bottom 7:
1. Maliek Collins 33.3
2. Trysten Hill 33.6
3. Ross Blacklock 35.2
4a. Brandon Dunn 37.2
4b.  Nathan Shepherd 37.2
6. Kentavius Street 39.8
7. Kendal Vickers 40.0

KICKER

Top 5:
1. Jason Sanders 90.3
2. Brandon McManus 90.2
3. Justin Tucker 86.0
4. Graham Gano 84.4
5. Jason Myers 82.1

Bottom 5:
1. Stephen Hauschka 28.9
2. Austin Seibert 29.6
3. Elliott Fry 35.6
4a. Jake Elliott 40.7
4b. Sam Ficken 40.7

PUNTER

Top 5:
1. Jack Fox 91.6
2. Tommy Townsend 82.6
3. Bradley Pinion 79.8
4. Brett Kern 78.4
5. A.J. Cole 76.2
6. Mmitch Wishnowsky 76.0

Bottom 5:
1a. Andy Lee 56.6
1b. Thomas Morstead 56.6
3. Britton Colquitt 57.2
4. Pat O'Donnell 57.8
5. Logan Cooke 58.1

I'll post this once more at the end of the season.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Man, PFF has it out for Shane Lemieux. He's only made a few starts, and lots of Giants-adjacent content guys were curious about him, so all of his snaps have been broken down. He's not great, but he's not nearly as bad as PFF grades him. For instance, he gave up 0 pressures against the Bengals, but was given something like a 35 pass block grade. How is that possible? Guys went back and watched the tape and yeah, he got beat clean twice by Atkins I think, but that was it. How is that a 35 pass blocking grade? Just very strange. Lemieux has played alright overall. Hernandez is still the better guard, even though Hernandez himself is just about average.

Good to see Eli Penny got some love at FB. Every time he gets some snaps, it results in a big run. 

I'd also imagine Leonard Williams, Blake Martinez, and James Bradberry are just outside the top 6-7 at their positions. They are having very good years.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Funny, Jeffery Simmons was higher during the stretch where he pretty much disappeared on the stat sheet (he was phenomenal in that stretch btw, just lots of big plays like pressures that don't show up) but this week against the Colts, he has a PD, a TFL, and a sack, and his number goes down.  Strangely enough, that makes me a little less critical of their number systems, because despite the good statistical game, not as dominant as he's been.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Quote

1. Brian Hill 53.3
2. Todd Gurley 54.6

Not shocking, but I don't love their methodology for RB grading.

 

1 hour ago, TheKillerNacho said:

7a. Julio Jones 85.5

Seems about right.

 

A little shocked Younghoe Koo isn't high up in the kicker rankings. Must be because of the 2 missed XPs.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

30 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said:

He's been terrible. The mistakes that were highlighted in the Chiefs game have just gotten worse. He looks completely lost in coverage, his tackling is spotty, effort is sometimes lacking and he's constantly not playing his resonsibility.

Wow I never knew. I remember him having that wild stat line early in the year. Unfortunate to see.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said:

Early in the year he was balling. Then teams just started to focus and expose him (starting with KC), and from there it hasn't stopped.

Well tbf it did “stop” to the degree that the WFT and Bengals chose not to target those flaws and he thrived tremendously. But I get your point and I’m just being a contrarian. 😆

Even going back to him as a prospect though he wasn’t particularly good (IMO) in his zone coverage feel. But his man coverage he’s been a step behind consistently and he thrived in that department as a prospect IIRC. Though I do believe he’s improved at least in his recognition, so he’s in better position the last couple games... though he still gets beat because he has no coverage awareness.

Though the good thing is that flaw seems very correctable with an offseason of focus.

But yeah the games against the WFT and the Bengals he looked like an All Pro, but I guess that’s partly how bad teams can make you look for not scheming around your flaws. He’s definitely marching towards the category of “questionable” first round pick at this point if he doesn’t make the necessary improvements to close out this season and/or over this offseason.

Edited by diamondbull424
Clarification
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said:

He's been terrible. The mistakes that were highlighted in the Chiefs game have just gotten worse. He looks completely lost in coverage, his tackling is spotty, effort is sometimes lacking and he's constantly not playing his resonsibility.

He was a splash play linebacker in college. Consistency is absolutely not his strong suit. He doesn’t really know when to fill vs. scrape and he tends to get washed out a lot because of his uncertainty. He’s a hell of an athlete that will probably eventually be good with some seasoning, but he’s hella raw to be playing uncovered over guards in a 3-4 defense. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, diamondbull424 said:

Well tbf it did “stop” to the degree that the WFT and Bengals chose not to target those flaws and he thrived tremendously. But I get your point and I’m just being a contrarian. 😆

Even going back to him as a prospect though he wasn’t particularly good (IMO) in his zone coverage feel. But his man coverage he’s been a step behind consistently and he thrived in that department as a prospect IIRC. Though I do believe he’s improved at least in his recognition, so he’s in better position the last couple games... though he still gets beat because he has no coverage awareness.

Though the good thing is that flaw seems very correctable with an offseason of focus.

But yeah the games against the WFT and the Bengals he looked like an All Pro, but I guess that’s partly how bad teams can make you look for not scheming around your flaws. He’s definitely marching towards the category of “questionable” first round pick at this point if he doesn’t make the necessary improvements to close out this season and/or over this offseason.

Some guys are built for the spread run. Some guys are built for the Pro-I run. The special ones can do both. Queen is not seasoned enough with his reads or fits when guards pull and down blocks come at him from all angles. He wants to shoot open gaps, but isn’t really in a position to do that in an odd front. 
 

The Ravens aren’t doing him a whole lot of favors by playing him inside, but then again, 3-4 teams don’t employ traditional OLB’s. 
 

He’s got a ton of work to do, but don’t be surprised if he becomes a great player down the line. Depends on his mental processing moving forward. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

59 minutes ago, QBIso said:

Some guys are built for the spread run. Some guys are built for the Pro-I run. The special ones can do both. Queen is not seasoned enough with his reads or fits when guards pull and down blocks come at him from all angles. He wants to shoot open gaps, but isn’t really in a position to do that in an odd front. 
 

The Ravens aren’t doing him a whole lot of favors by playing him inside, but then again, 3-4 teams don’t employ traditional OLB’s. 
 

He’s got a ton of work to do, but don’t be surprised if he becomes a great player down the line. Depends on his mental processing moving forward. 

Yeah he was a “raw” productive defender. The Ravens were either buying high or buying low with Queen considering his status as a backup at LSU even heading into that season and then his meteoric rise.

I certainly won’t be surprised if he excels either. His games against the WFT and Bengals, while bad teams sure, were incredible. And like I said his man coverage specifically has already seen improvements.

So I think he could be worth his draft status, but so many flaws (while many are very correctable) is highly concerning. My biggest gripe is he’s overthinking everything. After Mahomes destroyed him, he said he needed to trust in the coaches and what they say, then he had a bad game and said he needs to go back to playing “his game”. Not sure if he intended for a correlation between both comments,  but if there is, I would find it concerning if there’s a disconnect between both parties... especially with Queen’s play to this point. Again not sure if there’s a lack of trust, but if there is, it could explain the inconsistency.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...