Scoundrel Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Blue said: The only seasons I ever did anything in the playoffs in this league before I left, with Aaron Rodgers in his prime with Deandre Hopkins and Jordy Nelson at receiver and an annually elite offensive line, were the two years Doug Martin was elite. You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think this league effectively treats running back and quarterback as equally-valuable positions. Edit: meh, maybe I’m misremembering. But it’s absurd how often people have and will use “well team X can’t run the ball” as an excuse to vote against an elite passing game. He’s not in the league anymore but majority of times pickle voted against Singapore was based on Brady’s performances the past two seasons. And that’s just one example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Blue said: The only seasons I ever did anything in the playoffs in this league before I left, with Aaron Rodgers in his prime with Deandre Hopkins and Jordy Nelson at receiver and an annually elite offensive line, were the two years Doug Martin was elite. You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think this league effectively treats running back and quarterback as equally-valuable positions. Edit: meh, maybe I’m misremembering. But it’s absurd how often people have and will use “well team X can’t run the ball” as an excuse to vote against an elite passing game. For me, there is a tipping point of "they'd be so ineffective running the ball that the defense wouldn't respect it at all". Because then the DL can just just get straight upfield and linebackers and safeties can bail into coverage which really tightens throwing windows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: For me, there is a tipping point of "they'd be so ineffective running the ball that the defense wouldn't respect it at all". Because then the DL can just just get straight upfield and linebackers and safeties can bail into coverage which really tightens throwing windows. I seriously doubt any team in this league is less committed or effective at running the ball than the KC team that won the Super Bowl two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Blue said: I seriously doubt any team in this league is less committed or effective at running the ball than the KC team that won the Super Bowl two years ago. They got production out their RB in the receiving game though! And playoff Damien Williams was a different player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 33 minutes ago, Blue said: Should have actually watched Maxx Crosby. You can see the explosion and ability. Not that those things matter in this league, just stats. When Raiders games are available, I've watched whenever I can. And I've always been on the side of ability vs stats in this league, and I've said far too often this is treated like a standard fantasy league where people only take Sundays body of work into account. No need to take a shot at me man. I just thought Crosby peaked and he was feasting on bad tackles. Probably wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Just now, MD4L said: They got production out their RB in the receiving game though! And playoff Damien Williams was a different player. it’s not too late to delete your Damien Williams…whatever the opposite of slander is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Just now, Jlash said: No need to take a shot at me man. Wasn’t a shot at you, my dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Kansas City might have won in 2018 if Kareem Hunt doesn’t have that off field incident. So KC certainly has had impactful presences at RB. 1 minute ago, Blue said: it’s not too late to delete your Damien Williams…whatever the opposite of slander is Don’t kid yourself. Rewatch the film and look at the stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 minute ago, MD4L said: They got production out their RB in the receiving game though! And playoff Damien Williams was a different player. Damien Williams probably should have won MVP of the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Damian*. Thank goodness there are English majors here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Blue said: I seriously doubt any team in this league is less committed or effective at running the ball than the KC team that won the Super Bowl two years ago. They still averaged 101.5 rushing yards per game during the regular season. And had 118, 112, and 129 rushing yards in their 3 playoff victories. So it's not like they were completely inept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Thanks for proving my point to @Scoundrel guys, you the real MVPs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, MD4L said: Damian*. Thank goodness there are English majors here. I approved of the original spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I agree that RB is overvalued but disagree about QB being undervalued. But I also do agree with Rags that there is a minimum threshold of potential effectiveness you need to have in the running game to keep from being completely one dimensional. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Me with Christian McCaffrey ever since I took over this team 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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