TheKillerNacho Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, squire12 said: What do you expect a recycled HC to do, hire someone outside his comfort zone? has McCarthy and Quinn actually worked with eachother before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, AZ_Eaglesfan said: His defenses in ATL consistently underperformed. Right? They had so much talent there. I can almost name 2 players on their defense. Almost. Edited January 12, 2021 by Matts4313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: now doug pederson as OC We will stick with Moore, thanks 5 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: has McCarthy and Quinn actually worked with eachother before? Nope. I am perfectly happy with this hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Right? They had so much talent there. I can almost name 2 players on their defense. Almost. the cowboys have uh.. demarcus warerence and jaylon vander lee, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_gb Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: has McCarthy and Quinn actually worked with eachother before? Nah, only place I thought there would be a chance would have been SF but Quinn went to Miami to coach the DL the same year MM came on as their OC. This is a bit of a headscratcher, really thought this was going to be a Joe Whitt hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, ///mcompact said: Can’t be worse than Mike Nolan, but that’s not saying much.. I dunno about that their both Falcons retreads back to back just like yall are doing and im not sure Quinn was better than Nolan when both were calling the plays. The Falcons defense only improved when Quinn removed himself from the job and let Raheem and Ulbrich take over the defense fully. I just ran the numbers of when Nolan was calling our defense vs when Quinn took over each year from his coordinators and ran it here Nolan was 374.6 ypg and 24.1 PPG from 2012 to 2014 and Quinn was 387.3 ypg and 25.7 PPG the 4 years he took over the defense from his coordinators. So somehow he was worse than Nolan here which sorta scares me XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 4 hours ago, 49erurtaza said: He will be interim head coach at some point next season. No that person is already in place with Wonder Boy 2.0 getting his new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, ///mcompact said: Edited January 12, 2021 by FalconFan13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, FalconFan13 said: You are a man of many words. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erurtaza Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I'm just happy he's not the Niners D coordinator if/when Saleh gets hired as a HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, TheKillerNacho said: You are a man of many words. My friend you know the wisest ones are the ones who don't reveal their secrets so easily With that said the dreaded double post got me when i was typing the 1st post up there i hit submit and it didn't show my post so i thought i misclicked it and hit it again. Then it posted both of them i tried to delete that 2nd post but don't see a delete post button anywhere on it so i just erased all the words If you can delete that post feel free to for me if ya don't mind. or even better put something random and funny in it making fun of me or quinn or nolan i don't care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: the cowboys have uh.. demarcus warerence and jaylon vander lee, right? We need a talent infusion as well. But a good DT, CB and S; we could be massively improved. That and health, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, FalconFan13 said: I dunno about that their both Falcons retreads back to back just like yall are doing and im not sure Quinn was better than Nolan when both were calling the plays. The Falcons defense only improved when Quinn removed himself from the job and let Raheem and Ulbrich take over the defense fully. I just ran the numbers of when Nolan was calling our defense vs when Quinn took over each year from his coordinators and ran it here Nolan was 374.6 ypg and 24.1 PPG from 2012 to 2014 and Quinn was 387.3 ypg and 25.7 PPG the 4 years he took over the defense from his coordinators. So somehow he was worse than Nolan here which sorta scares me XD Talk to me about the talent differences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 This is an interesting one. DQ was phenomenal with Florida and Seattle as a DC. We'll see if he does a better job as DC when he's not also a HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Talk to me about the talent differences? If you are talking for the Falcons between each regime Nolans key guys were Abe, Babs, Spoon, Robinson, Samuel, Tyson Jackson and Willy Mo Rest were meh at best Quinns main guys were Grady, Debo, Jackson, Trufant, Alford, Neal, Allen, Brooks Reed, Adrian Clayborn, Takk Mckinley, Beasley and Devondre Campbell Later we got Foye who turned out great under Raheem. Abraham at DE is easily the best for Nolan no doubt about it. I would say CB -Tru and Alford were = to or better than Robinson and Samuel although it's really close. DT - Grady Jarrett >>>>>>> Dominates anything ever at DT Nolan had and i loved babs but compared to grady it's not even close. LB - Debo, Foye, and Campbell >>>>>> Spoon, Joplo, and Warrilow, Biermann at LB S - Rico and Neal are better than Willo Mo and Decoud I would say it's closer than ppl think though. DE - Beasley, Clayborne, Takk, Reed, and if you want to count him Dante Fowler for Quinn. Nolan was Abe, Tyson Jackson, and Osi for 1 year Quinn had more depth but i think Nolan had the better players. Although no one can say they didn't try to give Quinn talent at the position. Overall i would say Quinn had better players and talent to work with but performed worse than Nolan with it and when someone else took over these players from Quinn performed much better than Quinn did with them. 2017 Marquan Manuel was the DC calling plays and finished top 10 on defense with same players. He got fired with Sark after finishing top 10 on defense which was dumb and then Quinn took those same players the next 2 years and finished bottom 25. Raheem/ulbrich took over after 5 games this year and thew 1st 5 games under Quinn we were dead last in ypg and ppg or right there with the cowboys in both. After Morris took over outside of the last bucs game to end the season we were 20.9 ppg for 10 games which was good for 2nd and top 15 in ypg for those 10 games as well which was more in line with Marquan Manual in 2017's numbers. Quinn is the one constant in everything getting worse or better when he took over plays and removed himself from plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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