ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, TVScout said: What irony? I'll do you a favor and drop the word count. Let us know if you're still confused. 13 hours ago, TVScout said: Teachers lie 11 minutes ago, TVScout said: That the author was a college professor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 21 hours ago, TVScout said: What irony? That the author was a college professor who blew the whistle on the racket that is education in the USA? Why not? Are you the font of all knowledge and wisdom? Trade school teaches none of that. Trade schools exist to prevent the economy from collapsing. All prep schools do is offer a few more AP classes. You are a former teacher. Why did you leave? People who I went to high school with spent money on worthless degrees, or attempting to get one, and ended up going into a trade or another field where their degree means nothing. I know a dude who spent SIX years at WVU partying it up, and he sells cars/Harleys. Has made a decent living for himself, but he didn’t need to go to college to do that. I am also seeing an increased number of job openings asking for degrees OR experience, which young adults can get by working out of high school. Guess what the bonus to working is? You’re already making money, and don’t have the debt to pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 22 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Let us know if you're still confused. I am confused about nothing. The most important thing that exists is the economy. The most important part of the economy is money. The most important right anybody has is to earn money. The education system in the USA is less than worthless because it seeks to indoctrinate students into believing otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, naptownskinsfan said: People who I went to high school with spent money on worthless degrees, or attempting to get one, and ended up going into a trade or another field where their degree means nothing. I know a dude who spent SIX years at WVU partying it up, and he sells cars/Harleys. Has made a decent living for himself, but he didn’t need to go to college to do that. I am also seeing an increased number of job openings asking for degrees OR experience, which young adults can get by working out of high school. Guess what the bonus to working is? You’re already making money, and don’t have the debt to pay off. A friend in IT has a really good paying job, and she doesn't have a degree. I'll be graduating in December with my AAS in the same field, and I'll be graduating with about $25k in debt. What I wouldn't give to go back to 18 year old me and tell myself to do things differently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PARROTHEAD Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, naptownskinsfan said: People who I went to high school with spent money on worthless degrees, or attempting to get one, and ended up going into a trade or another field where their degree means nothing. I know a dude who spent SIX years at WVU partying it up, and he sells cars/Harleys. Has made a decent living for himself, but he didn’t need to go to college to do that. I am also seeing an increased number of job openings asking for degrees OR experience, which young adults can get by working out of high school. Guess what the bonus to working is? You’re already making money, and don’t have the debt to pay off. *reading this running a seafood company with a music degree. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, PARROTHEAD said: *reading this running a seafood company with a music degree. Totally normal. The more I work, the more frequently I see stuff like that and the more rare the "I graduated with an accounting degree and I'm an accountant" people are. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, TVScout said: I am confused about nothing. The most important thing that exists is the economy. The most important part of the economy is money. The most important right anybody has is to earn money. The education system in the USA is less than worthless because it seeks to indoctrinate students into believing otherwise. The fact that somehow you believe money is more important than life and liberty is nothing short of hilarious. Even according to Locke, pursuing property is a distant third. If money was everything, you would not see people leaving professions that work them to the bone but compensate them well. See: UPS strike vote at 97% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Totally normal. The more I work, the more frequently I see stuff like that and the more rare the "I graduated with an accounting degree and I'm an accountant" people are. I graduated with an education degree and work on negotiating and closing contracts in a team setting as a civilian for the USAF. Yeah, my 4 year degree plus masters helped and looked good, but they didn’t care about my major ironically. Turns out, teachers have communication and technology skills that universally translate, so getting trained in logistics while possessing the other tools is a selling point. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 The singer from Foreigner looks like Phil Collins with hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PARROTHEAD Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Daniel said: The singer from Foreigner looks like Phil Collins with hair. For me. Looks like Steven Tyler slipped Dave Grohl a mickey and 9 months later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PARROTHEAD said: For me. Looks like Steven Tyler slipped Dave Grohl a mickey and 9 months later... Wrong singer. That's some new dude. I'm talking the old one, Lou Gramm: Edited July 13, 2023 by Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 9 hours ago, MWil23 said: The fact that somehow you believe money is more important than life and liberty is nothing short of hilarious. Boy do you have things backwards. The major part of liberty is liberty. People earn money in order to live. People who don't earn money are risk to die naked starving and homeless. 9 hours ago, MWil23 said: If money was everything .... Did you just intentionally misquote? I never wrote anything of the sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 8 hours ago, TVScout said: Did you just intentionally misquote? I never wrote anything of the sort. 20 hours ago, TVScout said: I am confused about nothing. The most important thing that exists is the economy. The most important part of the economy is money. The most important right anybody has is to earn money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 20 hours ago, MWil23 said: I graduated with an education degree and work on negotiating and closing contracts in a team setting as a civilian for the USAF. Yeah, my 4 year degree plus masters helped and looked good, but they didn’t care about my major ironically. Turns out, teachers have communication and technology skills that universally translate, so getting trained in logistics while possessing the other tools is a selling point. You're going into a civilian government/military job? Oh man, get ready for the best, but also most uneventful, job of your life. It rules. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, minutemancl said: You're going into a civilian government/military job? Oh man, get ready for the best, but also most uneventful, job of your life. It rules. I’m Ron Swanson-ing it that’s for sure. I know it will be super steep on the learning curve portion, but the pay, benefits, and opportunities are too good to pass up on, and there are so many different avenues I can go down (contracting, logistics, security, finance, etc.) if this doesn’t end up being fulfilling. Opportunities for promotions, I got a signing bonus, and even then I’ve already networked in the private sector with a friend who is a VP who said “call me in 3 years” who likely would pay me 50% more. Granted, I’m going to have to balance that bump with the better life fringe benefits I am getting right now, like work from home 4 days per week, flexible hours, pension and employer match contributions, paid workout time 3 days per week, federal holidays and PTO, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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