goldfishwars Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, THE DUKE said: I think the teams will be much lower on Oweh than draft Twitter. That's a serious lack of production no matter what his measurables are. Teams will see him as an athletic project moreso than a skilled football player. Haha - I genuinely think the opposite. That was a generational workout and teams will want that upside. Flashed more than enough of that insane athletic talent to think the production is coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, goldfishwars said: Haha - I genuinely think the opposite. That was a generational workout and teams will want that upside. Flashed more than enough of that insane athletic talent to think the production is coming. The same insane athleticism that produced 0 sacks this year, and all of 7 in his 3 years at Penn State again far inferior competition on the whole than he will face in the NFL. That risk is a whole lot easier to swallow with a 2nd or 3rd rd pick than with 1st rd expectations. 1st rd edge players you want to be 10+ sack guys a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Just now, THE DUKE said: The same insane athleticism that produced 0 sacks this year, and all of 7 in his 3 years at Penn State again far inferior competition on the whole than he will face in the NFL. That risk is a whole lot easier to swallow with a 2nd or 3rd rd pick than with 1st rd expectations. 1st rd edge players you want to be 10+ sack guys a year. All of these edge players come with problems though, no guarantees with these guys. Oweh was a very good run defender last year, he wasn't the year before than. He was disruptive, you see it all over the film. He came into the sport late (in his teens), he's an ascending player with clear incremental improvements. We see it every year, teams like the athletic guys. Especially at edge, where you've got to hit those thresholds to be good in the NFL and he blows the doors off of them. It's like Gary going at 12 when he didn't do anything at Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 FanDuel not having prop bets up yet is making me mad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoltsFan937 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/14/2021 at 9:15 PM, Ozzy said: Sewell going to Miami or Cinci is very likely I feel with all the QB love going around, even if the Falcons trade out of 4 it is most likely to a team wanting a QB. So for him to go #2,#3 or #4 is not very likely to me. I took it as over/under the literal number. Like Sewell over 5.5 meaning he’d get drafted anytime after 6. And Chase being drafted before 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC421/ Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Loving Oweh as first dline drafted at +1400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeTheBallDeep Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 I am seeing Kyle Trask over/under at 77.5 and after a quick glance it seems most on here would take the over? How about it folks do you see Trask being picked by or before pick 77 (under) or pick 78 or higher (over) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-mac Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 minute ago, TakeTheBallDeep said: I am seeing Kyle Trask over/under at 77.5 and after a quick glance it seems most on here would take the over? How about it folks do you see Trask being picked by or before pick 77 (under) or pick 78 or higher (over) Other than the 5 QBs we talk about, no one else is going before the 4th round. I really think unless we see an unexpected faller out of round 1, there won’t be a single QB picked on day 2. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 2:59 PM, paul-mac said: Other than the 5 QBs we talk about, no one else is going before the 4th round. I really think unless we see an unexpected faller out of round 1, there won’t be a single QB picked on day 2. I didn't want to do this here but I'm still confused how Mond is a 4th round pick too everyone on Earth but me (and Chris simms but he didn't count). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-mac Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I like +2500 on the first three RBs to be Harris-Williams-Etienne in that order 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeTheBallDeep Posted April 25, 2021 Author Share Posted April 25, 2021 6 hours ago, paul-mac said: I like +2500 on the first three RBs to be Harris-Williams-Etienne in that order That is worth a small bet for sure at those odds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) On 4/15/2021 at 5:03 AM, goldfishwars said: All of these edge players come with problems though, no guarantees with these guys. Oweh was a very good run defender last year, he wasn't the year before than. He was disruptive, you see it all over the film. He came into the sport late (in his teens), he's an ascending player with clear incremental improvements. We see it every year, teams like the athletic guys. Especially at edge, where you've got to hit those thresholds to be good in the NFL and he blows the doors off of them. It's like Gary going at 12 when he didn't do anything at Michigan. Yep every single EDGE in this class is a project (except Philips, but he also has major medical concerns). For this EDGE class, you are drafting purely for potential. And nobody has more potential than Oweh. His 0 sacks don’t bother me much. For Rankings, Oweh is my #1 EDGE in this class, but they are all pretty close: #18 Jayson Oweh #20 Kwity Paye #22 Azeez Ojulari #23 Gregory Rousseau #35 Jaelan Philips (mostly medical reasons/premature retirement) And in my Final Mock, I think the draft goes like this: 15. Patriots - Kwity Paye 18. Dolphins - Jayson Oweh 22. Bills (trade up) - Jaelan Philips 23. Jets - Azeez Ojulari 26. Browns - Gregory Rousseau I think Oweh is gonna go much higher than people expect. It seems most are thinking Late 1st/Early 2nd. Edited April 25, 2021 by BayRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatlyner Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I just hammered the bet for Chase to be top 5 pick. Its -165 but its like printing money. He is almost assured of being the pick at 5 based on the Lions attempt to trade to 4 so they can draft him ahead of Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Flatlyner said: I just hammered the bet for Chase to be top 5 pick. Its -165 but its like printing money. He is almost assured of being the pick at 5 based on the Lions attempt to trade to 4 so they can draft him ahead of Bengals. Free money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Flatlyner said: I just hammered the bet for Chase to be top 5 pick. Its -165 but its like printing money. He is almost assured of being the pick at 5 based on the Lions attempt to trade to 4 so they can draft him ahead of Bengals. Yeah got this too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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