resilient part 2 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 9 hours ago, seminoles1 said: You came in this thread to discredit Simmons without even watching the game. Simmons has been much more impressive given their roles on their teams. BY. A. LONGSHOT. One game with just a boxscore, most of the season with NBA League pass. go on then.. In the mean time, 12 points, 1 reb, 4 asts, 6 turnovers your right, the BOXSCORE lied. BTW season total has Simmons shooting 33% beyond 3 ft. 3 freakin ft???? THIS IS NOT A BOXSCORE. .. #ALLSTAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utley Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, resilient part 2 said: BOLD #1 = WOW BOLD# 2 = even a BIGGER WOW BOLD #3 = Speechless.. Nothing I said is incorrect. And your response just validates that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Rank these: Markkanen Ball Kuzma D. Smith Mitchell Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 49 minutes ago, malak1 said: Rank these: Markkanen Ball Kuzma D. Smith Mitchell Thanks. As far as how they have played so far. Mitchell Kuzma Markkanen Ball Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, 11sanchez11 said: As far as how they have played so far. Mitchell Kuzma Markkanen Ball Smith Same.for me based on play, but I like Markkanen the most for highest potential down the road. Still seems like a big puppy with a lot of talent to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensTillIDie Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 54 minutes ago, 11sanchez11 said: As far as how they have played so far. Mitchell Kuzma Markkanen Ball Smith I agree with this, but in terms of long-term potential I have to rank them: Ball Kuzma Markkanen Mitchell Smith Only reason I rank Mitchell so low is because he is what he is, a tremendous scorer. His usage rate is already among the top players in the league and there really isn't much he can significantly improve upon. He's likely going to be one of the best scorers in the league for a long-time, barring injuries. However, as we've seen with countless other players in the same mold, that doesn't necessarily translate into wins and losses. And I don't really see him significantly upping his assist or rebounding numbers, and he really doesn't need to. He can be a great compliment on a good team in need of scoring. Ball, Kuzma, and Markkanen all look like they've barely scratched the tip of their potential. All look like they could be legitimate franchise players that directly contribute to the win shares of their respective teams down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Ball, really? Kuzma and Markkanen franchise players? I don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, RavensTillIDie said: I agree with this, but in terms of long-term potential I have to rank them: Ball Kuzma Markkanen Mitchell Smith Only reason I rank Mitchell so low is because he is what he is, a tremendous scorer. His usage rate is already among the top players in the league and there really isn't much he can significantly improve upon. He's likely going to be one of the best scorers in the league for a long-time, barring injuries. However, as we've seen with countless other players in the same mold, that doesn't necessarily translate into wins and losses. And I don't really see him significantly upping his assist or rebounding numbers, and he really doesn't need to. He can be a great compliment on a good team in need of scoring. Ball, Kuzma, and Markkanen all look like they've barely scratched the tip of their potential. All look like they could be legitimate franchise players that directly contribute to the win shares of their respective teams down the road. That's kind of my train of thought as well. If Lonzo Ball turns into even a halfway decent shooter, he's the most impactful of the players. He rebounds, he passes well, and he's a kind of player who can hold shape an offense. I'm not sure any of the other ones on that list are going to have that kind of impact. The difference between Kuzma and Markkanen for me is pretty small. Kuzma is a bit better shooter, but Markannen is a bit better rebounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, CWood21 said: That's kind of my train of thought as well. If Lonzo Ball turns into even a halfway decent shooter, he's the most impactful of the players. He rebounds, he passes well, and he's a kind of player who can hold shape an offense. I'm not sure any of the other ones on that list are going to have that kind of impact. The difference between Kuzma and Markkanen for me is pretty small. Kuzma is a bit better shooter, but Markannen is a bit better rebounder. Kuzma's a better shooter than Markkanen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, champ11 said: Kuzma's a better shooter than Markkanen? He's currently shooting better from the field than Markkanen, and the same rate behind the arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, CWood21 said: He's currently shooting better from the field than Markkanen, and the same rate behind the arc. FG% is not really a good way to evaluate shooting tbh. They have the same TS%. Markennen is the fastest player to hit 100 threes ever. Pretty odd to think that Kuzma is a better shooter than Markkanen. Lauri has an insane ceiling as a shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just now, champ11 said: FG% is not really a good way to evaluate shooting tbh. They have the same TS%. Markennen is the fastest player to hit 100 threes ever. Pretty odd to think that Kuzma is a better shooter than Markkanen. Lauri has an insane ceiling as a shooter Sorry, I should have probably said scorer. Maybe I haven't seen enough of Markannen but he's always been more of a spot up shooter for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Maybe I haven't seen enough of Markannen but he's always been more of a spot up shooter for me. definitely not. They have him coming off screens a lot, especially flare screens from Lopez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grubs10 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: Sorry, I should have probably said scorer. Maybe I haven't seen enough of Markannen but he's always been more of a spot up shooter for me. Ya no disrespect but it sound like you haven't watched him much this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/16/2018 at 2:19 PM, RavensTillIDie said: I agree with this, but in terms of long-term potential I have to rank them: Ball Kuzma Markkanen Mitchell Smith Only reason I rank Mitchell so low is because he is what he is, a tremendous scorer. His usage rate is already among the top players in the league and there really isn't much he can significantly improve upon. He's likely going to be one of the best scorers in the league for a long-time, barring injuries. However, as we've seen with countless other players in the same mold, that doesn't necessarily translate into wins and losses. And I don't really see him significantly upping his assist or rebounding numbers, and he really doesn't need to. He can be a great compliment on a good team in need of scoring. Ball, Kuzma, and Markkanen all look like they've barely scratched the tip of their potential. All look like they could be legitimate franchise players that directly contribute to the win shares of their respective teams down the road. On 1/16/2018 at 4:12 PM, CWood21 said: That's kind of my train of thought as well. If Lonzo Ball turns into even a halfway decent shooter, he's the most impactful of the players. He rebounds, he passes well, and he's a kind of player who can hold shape an offense. I'm not sure any of the other ones on that list are going to have that kind of impact. The difference between Kuzma and Markkanen for me is pretty small. Kuzma is a bit better shooter, but Markannen is a bit better rebounder. This was posted on Tuesday?! Sounds like a take from the beginning of the season. No way can you have Mitchell that low when he’s been easily the best of the group with the highest upside to dominate on both ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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