Heimdallr Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 Good for Kaepernick. There must have been some pretty strong evidence of collusion to actually win a case like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 51 minutes ago, Heimdallr said: Good for Kaepernick. There must have been some pretty strong evidence of collusion to actually win a case like that. Kaepernick didn't win the case. He settled. So did the NFL. It was money well spent by the NFL to put the thing to bed. Billionaire owners don't have to deal with court subpoenas now and any potential fallout from what they might say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 14 hours ago, Heimdallr said: Good for Kaepernick. There must have been some pretty strong evidence of collusion to actually win a case like that. If Kaepernick had strong evidence of collusion, he never would have settled. But at least we know that Kaepernick’s “convictions” have a price. It really sounds like he sacrificed a lot for what he believes in. 🙄 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Kaepernick is making out like a bandit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, vikesfan89 said: Kaepernick is making out like a bandit not really. half of NFL qb's are making 20 mil a year, so that's pretty much what K's rate was figured at. plus, he's giving 1/3 of the settlement away for legal fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, vike daddy said: not really. half of NFL qb's are making 20 mil a year, so that's pretty much what K's rate was figured at. plus, he's giving 1/3 of the settlement away for legal fees. Plus the Nike deal. He would have had to be a decent qb to make 20 million a year. He could have been on the right team but far from a guarantee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 6:20 AM, SemperFeist said: If Kaepernick had strong evidence of collusion, he never would have settled. But at least we know that Kaepernick’s “convictions” have a price. It really sounds like he sacrificed a lot for what he believes in. 🙄 As a USMC veteran, and a practicing civil litigation attorney, clients with good cases settle all of the time. First, nothing is a sure thing in a courtroom; less so in arbitration where there is not a jury and only a single person deciding the matter. Litigation is uncertain and stressful, takes a lot of time and inconvenience, and costs money. Settlement is very often a preferable outcome. Secondly, this was an employment dispute. The measure of damages, or being "made whole," was always going to be money. You're implying that he somehow "sold out." That's simply not the case. There's almost certainly nothing in the settlement that states he can't continue his activism and philanthropy, although there is probably a non-disparagement clause. So while he may not be badmouthing the NFL, he will continue to bring awareness to his causes. Who knows, we may see some new programs rolled out by the NFL as part of this settlement. By the way, no arbitrator, judge or jury could ever force the NFL to employ Kaepernick. So again, the outcome was always going to be monetary. Finally, he has sacrificed. He has people constantly questioning his motivations, his patriotism, his convictions and his decisions. He's been pilloried by the President, become a target for people who wouldn't mind seeing a return to the 1950's, and had his original intent distorted. I've seen and heard him referred to in terms that would make a sailor blush. He's been threatened. He's never going to be able to walk down the street without a good portion of the population thinking he's terrible. Should he have kids, they'll probably have to put up with the parents of their classmates saying terrible things about their father. His life has changed. He has sacrificed the comfort and adoration that comes with being an NFL player. The NFL had far more to lose than Kaepernick. If there was no evidence of collusion, the NFL wouldn't have settled. They need good news in the press. Ray Rice, Kareem Hunt, Aaron Hernandez, CTE, bad officiating, Donald Trump, etc. If they thought for a second this would go well for them, they would have seen it through. They decided there was enough there that they wanted to make it go away. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 If he can be had for cheap, I'd be interested in bringing in Ross. The team is missing that sort of elite deep speed to stretch the field. As a #3/#4 deep ball specialist he could be a nice pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Shouldn't they trade him to Dallas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Heimdallr said: If he can be had for cheap, I'd be interested in bringing in Ross. The team is missing that sort of elite deep speed to stretch the field. As a #3/#4 deep ball specialist he could be a nice pickup. Laqoun Treadwell for John Ross straight up. Under-performing 1st rounder for under-performing 1st rounder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, VikeManDan said: Laqoun Treadwell for John Ross straight up. Under-performing 1st rounder for under-performing 1st rounder. I'd do it but we'd have to throw in a draft pick. He did catch 7 Tds last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: I'd do it but we'd have to throw in a draft pick. He did catch 7 Tds last year. They get to dump two years of guaranteed salary for just a single year of guaranteed salary and the hope that a different face will fit into their offense better. The Vikings end up picking up a year of guaranteed salary more than they get rid of but they also get to hope that the other piece will fit into their offense better. The Vikings should hesitate to pick up that contract. It isn't something they can just dump if it isn't working out. If they were to do the team they had better do their homework first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Adam Schefter✔@AdamSchefter Eagles are not tagging QB Nick Foles; he will be allowed to become a free agent and leave Philadelphia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 The values, via Albert Breer of SI.com, for every position are listed below. Players with non-exclusive franchise tags can sign offer sheets with other teams, although that team would have to give up two first-round picks if the original team does not match. Transition tags carry no draft pick compensation if the original team does not match an offer sheet. Franchise Tags: Quarterback $24.865 million Running back $11.214 million Wide receiver $16.787 million Tight end $10.387 million Offensive linemen $14.067 million Defensive end $17.128 million Defensive tackle $15.209 million Linebacker $15.443 million Cornerback $16.022 million Safety $11.15 million Kicker/Punter $4.971 million Transition Tags: Quarterback $22.783 million Running back $9.099 million Wide receiver $14.794 million Tight end $8.815 million Offensive linemen $12.866 million Defensive end $14.36 million Defensive tackle $12.378 million Linebacker $13.222 million Cornerback $13.703 million Safety $9.531 million Kicker/Punter $4.537 million The league has also set the restricted free agent tenders. A first-round tender will run $4.407 million with the number rising to $4.907 million if a free agent’s original team wants the right to match an offer sheet that includes a provision waiving or limiting future franchise tag rights without matching that provision. Second-round tenders will be $3.095 million and original round tenders for players drafted below the second round will be $2.025 million. Undrafted players can be tendered for the same amount, although there is no draft pick compensation. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/01/2019-franchise-and-transition-tag-restricted-free-agent-tender-values-set/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Master Tesfatsion of Bleacher Report reports that the Raiders were shopping quarterback Derek Carr at the Scouting Combine. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/02/report-raiders-are-shopping-derek-carr/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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