roi34 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 what we do with Abram will be key too.. do we shift him to lb? let him go? id like a real cover safety with moehrig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Im Just going to break down his stance once more time because I tend to agree with it: carr often is slow to trust young WRs. Rookies often aren’t super productive year 1. We need a WR1 for next year. Going the FA Route gives us the best chance at production. If the right WR is there (Wilson or williams) he’d take them But if not he’d prefer to Wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 if godwin didnt get hurt.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, roi34 said: what we do with Abram will be key too.. do we shift him to lb? let him go? id like a real cover safety with moehrig I think if Bradley goes we HAVE to move to a 2 High safety scheme. That pushes Abram to a LB or hybrid role. I wouldn’t form A scheme Around trying to find a place for Abram…. But I do want to see a lot of 3 safety formations and I think a creative DC could get lot of value out of Abram. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, jimkelly02 said: Im Just going to break down his stance once more time because I tend to agree with it: carr often is slow to trust young WRs. Rookies often aren’t super productive year 1. We need a WR1 for next year. Going the FA Route gives us the best chance at production. If the right WR is there (Wilson or williams) he’d take them But if not he’d prefer to Wait. Pretty much spot on. I would like to sign Chark on a FA value deal, not sure it will happen because if I am high on him I'm sure other GM's will be too. A 25 YO, 6'3 WR who runs a 4.3 and has been hampered with poor QB play his whole career, what GM would't look hard at signing him. Now say we sign Chark and don't sign another WR I still would not be opposed to drafting Williams or Wilson if they are BPA when it's our time to draft. A WR corp of Chark, WIlliams/Wilson, Renfrow, Edwards and Jones would turn a glaring weakness into a strength! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Pretty much spot on. I would like to sign Chark on a FA value deal, not sure it will happen because if I am high on him I'm sure other GM's will be too. A 25 YO, 6'3 WR who runs a 4.3 and has been hampered with poor QB play his whole career, what GM would't look hard at signing him. Now say we sign Chark and don't sign another WR I still would not be opposed to drafting Williams or Wilson if they are BPA when it's our time to draft. A WR corp of Chark, WIlliams/Wilson, Renfrow, Edwards and Jones would turn a glaring weakness into a strength! The only Problem I see with Chark is he Probably isn’t cheap and I’d be a little Afraid to sign him long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: The only Problem I see with Chark is he Probably isn’t cheap and I’d be a little Afraid to sign him long term. I agree he won't be cheap but I'm not concerned about him long term other than he has had injury concerns. I would be open to a 2 year 20 million dollar deal but I'm not sure that would get it done. Edited January 18, 2022 by Frankie2Gunz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, Frankie2Gunz said: I agree he won't be cheap. I would be open to a 2 year 20 million dollar deal but I'm not sure that would get it done. I was thinking 1yr, 9-12m. Or 2y,20 with only a small guaranteed 2nd year in case it doesn’t work out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, roi34 said: what we do with Abram will be key too.. do we shift him to lb? let him go? id like a real cover safety with moehrig I think he moves to linebacker. Before his draft, I considered him a weak-side linebacker. We've seen a lot of similar prospects makes the switch successfully. And, he basically played linebacker as a box safety this season. He looked great coming downhill. Edited January 18, 2022 by Rich7sena 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: I was thinking 1yr, 9-12m. Or 2y,20 with only a small guaranteed 2nd year in case it doesn’t work out. I would be all for it and it would make sense for Chark too. He goes to a team where he will be the number 1 WR with a good QB. If he comes here and preforms then we can sign him to a multi year extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 48 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Wasn't Carr your sig a few weeks ago? hahah You crack me up. People still have sigs?? Like the old forum? I don't see them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 42 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: You clearly lack comprehension. I have said numerous times of the players I have looked at Gardner, Booth, Williams and Wilson all appear to be studs who I would be happy with. You do realize that two of those 4 players are WR's. Wr's in the 1st have a high bust rate and my point is whoever our GM is better be damn sure he is taking a Jefferson and not a Corey Coleman if we go WR. I was referring to Mike Williams / Amari Cooper. And if he takes a CB hopefully it's not another Gareon Conley, DJ Hayden, or Damon Arnette. We've missed on CB's early way more than we've missed on WR early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 29 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: I agree he won't be cheap but I'm not concerned about him long term other than he has had injury concerns. I would be open to a 2 year 20 million dollar deal but I'm not sure that would get it done. Nelly got $13M, Chark will get at least that, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: Im Just going to break down his stance once more time because I tend to agree with it: carr often is slow to trust young WRs. Rookies often aren’t super productive year 1. We need a WR1 for next year. Going the FA Route gives us the best chance at production. If the right WR is there (Wilson or williams) he’d take them But if not he’d prefer to Wait. The only WR1's that we realistically have a chance at are guys like Allen Robinson and possibly Chris Godwin if we overpay them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: People still have sigs?? Like the old forum? I don't see them Whatever the pic on the left is. I call it a sig. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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