mikemike778 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 9 hours ago, raidersedge said: Wonder whats going on in GB and who is in charge. I would bring Rodgers in a room and ask him who he wants me to fire and how much money he wants. Same with Adams. They have asked Rodgers and Adams how much they want. We don't have it. We trade Rodgers and let Adams walk and we are struggling to get under the cap next year. Even with both of them we have to do more cap kicking. Its not Madden, signing Adams sadly doesn't make sense at this pint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemike778 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 12 hours ago, VonKarman said: The problem here is that Adams wants more than the 27.25M per year that Nuk got in that wierd extension. I guess they are willing to go up to somewhere around 4Y/100M, but Davante will ask for at least 10M more. The problem is we have zero money in 2022. Less than zero , minus 30m in fact So you have to have a very low cap hit in 22 and then monstrous cap hits from 2023 for an ageing receiver with an injury history. You have a new QB so aren't all-in mode. It doesn't make sense. Surprised that contract talks were going on. I love Adams, but re-signing him to an injury history never seemed like it was on. Although I expected us to not sign AJ so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 17 hours ago, Rodjahs12 said: MLF's offense doesn't put a premium on WRs and the front office isn't likely to entertain paying him more than Hopkins who broke the market being 5 mil ahead of everyone. He's about as good as gone honestly. I expect him and Rodgers to be here for this season but it's truly a farewell. End of an era here for sure. Most of us have embraced it. The nice thing for Packer fans, and the team for that matter, is that you have been through this before with Favre. It was a good run for Rodgers and Adams, but life goes on, and the Packers will adapt to the changes. MLF has shown himself to be a good coach, so the future should still be bright in Green Bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 13 hours ago, NudeTayne said: This. That said, what do you think the deal looks like? And any chance Carr ends up on a different team, with Rodgers/Adams in Vegas? Or does Adams get packaged with Rodgers to the Broncos instead (and I would assume the Packers get Jeudy or Sutton as part of the deal back). Maybe Denver will go after Carr. He would be a good backup for Bridgewater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnChimpo Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 7 hours ago, mikemike778 said: They have asked Rodgers and Adams how much they want. We don't have it. We trade Rodgers and let Adams walk and we are struggling to get under the cap next year. Even with both of them we have to do more cap kicking. Its not Madden, signing Adams sadly doesn't make sense at this pint. If it was Madden, I’d have traded him right before the draft for a top 5 pick and a couple other picks. Lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, JohnChimpo said: If it was Madden, I’d have traded him right before the draft for a top 5 pick and a couple other picks. Lol All trades are possible through our lord and savior Madden's broken franchise mode. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnChimpo Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, NudeTayne said: All trades are possible through our lord and savior Madden's broken franchise mode. Haha yeah I won over 20 Super Bowls in a row by trading my stars right before they started declining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifeelasleep Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 packers fans were talking about this being kind of a longshot even before AR started with his public fit. Adams deserves a ton of money but its a massive third contract and GB doesnt really give those. Davante has said hes not going to miss any practice or games hes earning his money, he will be a pro through this negotiation or split. If talks break down for good he is going to be franchised, if the team sucks he will be traded, Jaire Alexander is due for a top of the market deal next year, doubt they give it to Adams, rather the cap space go there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 This leads me to believe Rodgers will not return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Punting Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 2:34 AM, mikemike778 said: The problem is we have zero money in 2022. Less than zero , minus 30m in fact So you have to have a very low cap hit in 22 and then monstrous cap hits from 2023 for an ageing receiver with an injury history. You have a new QB so aren't all-in mode. It doesn't make sense. Surprised that contract talks were going on. I love Adams, but re-signing him to an injury history never seemed like it was on. Although I expected us to not sign AJ so who knows. The negotiations were likely all for show. They know he's worth top dollar and they know they can't afford it. That's why they wouldn't make an offer that was even in the ballpark. The whole exercise was just damage control, they couldn't risk completely alienating another one of their best players by not even discussing an extension as he enters his contract year. The faux negotiation lets them say "we tried, but just couldn't get it done". Adams flushed them out and now knows they were never serious about offering a realistic contract. Probably guarantees a holdout next year if they try to tag him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Les Punting said: The negotiations were likely all for show. They know he's worth top dollar and they know they can't afford it. That's why they wouldn't make an offer that was even in the ballpark. The whole exercise was just damage control, they couldn't risk completely alienating another one of their best players by not even discussing an extension as he enters his contract year. The faux negotiation lets them say "we tried, but just couldn't get it done". Adams flushed them out and now knows they were never serious about offering a realistic contract. Probably guarantees a holdout next year if they try to tag him. You somehow forgot the most titillating part of the tale: the Ukrainian/South African triple spy who leapt from a stealth drone to deliver the faux offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Les Punting said: The negotiations were likely all for show. They know he's worth top dollar and they know they can't afford it. That's why they wouldn't make an offer that was even in the ballpark. The whole exercise was just damage control, they couldn't risk completely alienating another one of their best players by not even discussing an extension as he enters his contract year. The faux negotiation lets them say "we tried, but just couldn't get it done". Adams flushed them out and now knows they were never serious about offering a realistic contract. Probably guarantees a holdout next year if they try to tag him. Think you’re pretty much spot on, gbs cap situation is rough. Without compromising the team too much, the only way I see to fit Adam’s in is a Rodgers restructure. Wonder how that would go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemike778 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 17 hours ago, Les Punting said: The negotiations were likely all for show. They know he's worth top dollar and they know they can't afford it. That's why they wouldn't make an offer that was even in the ballpark. The whole exercise was just damage control, they couldn't risk completely alienating another one of their best players by not even discussing an extension as he enters his contract year. The faux negotiation lets them say "we tried, but just couldn't get it done". Adams flushed them out and now knows they were never serious about offering a realistic contract. Probably guarantees a holdout next year if they try to tag him. To be fair ... they were entitled to offer him what they could afford even if there a negligible chance of it being accepted. I doubt Adams would holdout. But any contract we offered him would need to be heavily backloaded given the 2022 cap position. Don't think there is any way we could franchise him. Maybe if you can franchise with 12 void years so you push the cap hit down the road but that's not how franchise tags work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 18 hours ago, Les Punting said: The negotiations were likely all for show. They know he's worth top dollar and they know they can't afford it. That's why they wouldn't make an offer that was even in the ballpark. The whole exercise was just damage control, they couldn't risk completely alienating another one of their best players by not even discussing an extension as he enters his contract year. The faux negotiation lets them say "we tried, but just couldn't get it done". Adams flushed them out and now knows they were never serious about offering a realistic contract. Probably guarantees a holdout next year if they try to tag him. They weren't. Adams wanted a high AAV alongside multiple years. Nuk got a 2 year deal. Adams likely wants 5+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Punting Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, CWood21 said: They weren't. Adams wanted a high AAV alongside multiple years. Nuk got a 2 year deal. Adams likely wants 5+. Adams has never stated his actual contract demands. All we know is that he wanted to be "close" to the highest paid WR in AAV, and why shouldn't he? He's the best WR in the game. Despite a long negotiation they apparently made almost no progress. Apparently, GB wasn't willing to make the best WR in the game close to the top paid. How much could they have been apart 3-4M/yr tops? The cap is set to rise significantly in the coming years, but GB still wasn't willing to get any closer to his number, adding another ~10M over 5 years? That's not a serious negotiation, it's lowballing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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