LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 38 minutes ago, warfelg said: Ben Roethlisberger is done for. Oh...you wanted overreaction. The fact they didn’t bring in his replacement over the offseason is still crazy to me. The end of last season the writing was on the wall. He may not have been washed, but he wasn’t the same dude. Maybe they really like Haskins, idk, but it was a rare misstep by an otherwise impeccably run organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Matt Stafford is MVP. Jalen Ramsey is DPOY. ...Yes, I'm a homer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Belichick is a fraud! Without Brady to cover his ***, he can’t win his way out of a wet paper bag! All that money invested and the offense still sucks while the defense can only ball out against rookie QBs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: The fact they didn’t bring in his replacement over the offseason is still crazy to me. The end of last season the writing was on the wall. He may not have been washed, but he wasn’t the same dude. Maybe they really like Haskins, idk, but it was a rare misstep by an otherwise impeccably run organization. Honestly, it's not crazy. They've explored moving up and scouting QB's before. They've heavily scouted Mahomes, Jackson, Fields to name a few. I think they don't have a heir apparent in house because they either want a full reset after Ben retires and we will see a massive exodus, or they think it will piss off Ben and he'll do what ARod is doing (which can only end well for us). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riftty Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, BStanRamFan said: Matt Stafford is MVP. Jalen Ramsey is DPOY. ...Yes, I'm a homer. I still say AD, as good as Jalen has been. AD just takes up half the offensive line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, warfelg said: Honestly, it's not crazy. They've explored moving up and scouting QB's before. They've heavily scouted Mahomes, Jackson, Fields to name a few. I think they don't have a heir apparent in house because they either want a full reset after Ben retires and we will see a massive exodus, or they think it will piss off Ben and he'll do what ARod is doing (which can only end well for us). Yeah they’re clearly gonna reset, but I’m not sure why? Lots of good defensive talent, plenty of good skill position talent, just need a QB and some help on the OL. I guess as an outsider I just look at the fact that they never need to reset as the main reason they’re always competitive. When a dude leaves via FA, they have someone to replace them. Someone who’s been in the system and is ready to play. And Ben may definitely have been an arse about it, but good lord, he’s almost 40 and has been declining to some degree for a few years. I just don’t see the point of appeasing him for the sake of a .500 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Yeah they’re clearly gonna reset, but I’m not sure why? Lots of good defensive talent, plenty of good skill position talent, just need a QB and some help on the OL. I guess as an outsider I just look at the fact that they never need to reset as the main reason they’re always competitive. When a dude leaves via FA, they have someone to replace them. Someone who’s been in the system and is ready to play. And Ben may definitely have been an arse about it, but good lord, he’s almost 40 and has been declining to some degree for a few years. I just don’t see the point of appeasing him for the sake of a .500 season. I think they're going to go stopgap until they either suck enough to get to a Ben again; or keep trying former first rounders like they have. I'm with you on the last bit. Too many fans thought bringing Ben back was the only way to still have a chance, and I argued bringing back Ben was an easy way to guarantee we don't have a chance. But alas, we'll end up finishing 6-11 to 9-8 range, with another 2 surprise wins like we had over the Bills, Ben will want to come back for one last ride saying something like "I let those guys down and they deserve to get there, and I think I have it in me to do that", and we'll again push cap around to keep Ben and his besties while ignoring the future. Honestly, Ben had a great prime, and I think it always irked him to not be talked about up there with Brees, Brady, Manning, ARod, and a few others of his "QB generation"; so he things playing all the way until his 40's like Brees, Brady did is a way to gain respect out of longevity of his career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Although let me give an actual overreation based on something I saw: Jamar Chase will never live up to his draft position and will always be a one-trick pony of a WR. He's the new DeSean Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KManX89 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 11 hours ago, Tk3 said: Four of the rookie QBs have more interceptions than touchdowns The only ones who don't are Davis Mills and Trey Lance (only 1 pass attempt) It's almost like starting QBs before they're ready or even grasped the playbook is a bad idea or something. Guys like Herbert, Baker, etc. are the exception, not the rule. The Pats probably wish Cam didn't force his way out of town by being a dumbass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 All of the rookie QB's will be busts in 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 31 minutes ago, KManX89 said: The Pats probably wish Cam didn't force his way out of town by being a dumbass. I missed it. What did he do besides be bad at QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: I missed it. What did he do besides be bad at QB Not get vaccinated then missed some mandatory meeting or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 35 minutes ago, KManX89 said: The Pats probably wish Cam didn't force his way out of town by being a dumbass. Cam lost the QB competition in TC to Mac. Whether that says more about Cam or Mac remains to be seen. But I will say that, to anyone who's watched the games, Mac isn't the reason the Pats have 2 losses this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Patrick Queen should be an unsigned street FA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: All of the rookie QB's will be busts in 2 years. I'm predicting only 2 of the rookie QBs will be starting week 1 of 2023, and only 1 of those teams will feel good about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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