ChazStandard Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, NeptunePenguins said: Yeah but he had his 1984 season which no other QB has ever done before. So his post 86 stats were just worse teams for him. Peak Dan Marino is like Michael Jordan. …I don’t understand how that in anyway contradicts the point though. Marino peaked early, looked otherworldly, won an MVP and went to a SB in his first three years…and then proceeded to be just very good for the next 16 years. It’s literally an example of what guys were saying never happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, DannyB said: well at least his snot-nosed puke of a brother has fun being a human parasite and making awesome tik toks of him dancing. that's all that matters. Every generation of pro football has its Billy Carter. I guess Jackson Mahomes is ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, ChazStandard said: They were 2 missed kicks from being in a tie game, and dropped pick from being in the lead.🤷♂️ Yeah, I imagine they could have won it if their plan wasn’t to turn their young QB into a tackling dummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeptunePenguins Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Soggust said: Favre 99-00? Favre isn't quite an all-time great QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeptunePenguins Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, ChazStandard said: …I don’t understand how that in anyway contradicts the point though. Marino peaked early, looked otherworldly, won an MVP and went to a SB in his first three years…and then proceeded to be just very good for the next 16 years. It’s literally an example of what guys were saying never happens. Marino is still the most talent QB ever in terms of well talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, NeptunePenguins said: Favre isn't quite an all-time great QB. How dare you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, NeptunePenguins said: Favre isn't quite an all-time great QB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyB Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, NeptunePenguins said: Favre isn't quite an all-time great QB. I mean...he's a no-doubt hall of famer. How stringent is your definition of all-time great? Inarguably in the conversation as a Top 10 qb? I mean if Favre doesn't count it feels like your list of qualifying quarterbacks is getting pretty short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, NeptunePenguins said: Marino is still the most talent QB ever in terms of well talent. Keep tap dancing, buddy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeptunePenguins Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I am just saying Mahomes will end up like Favre at best. A good but not great QB for his career. Mahomes putting up bad stats in 2021 is something Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Dan Marino wouldn't do. Marino in this era would put up 60 TDs and 6000 yards with ease and Mahomes is struggling to get 30 this year. Not at all an all-time QB if you struggle to put up 30 TDs in the easiest era ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinSting Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, NeptunePenguins said: I am just saying Mahomes will end up like Favre at best. A good but not great QB for his career. Mahomes putting up bad stats in 2021 is something Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Dan Marino wouldn't do. Marino in this era would put up 60 TDs and 6000 yards with ease and Mahomes is struggling to get 30 this year. Not at all an all-time QB if you struggle to put up 30 TDs in the easiest era ever. Fatigue and burn-out is a real thing, Mahomes and Chiefs have been living on the edge for a few years, so many hugely stressful playoff games. They need a break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Apparition said: old meme format, but still He still has problems against exotic looks, and presnap disguises that change after the snap. It’s a work in process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, NeptunePenguins said: I am just saying Mahomes will end up like Favre at best. A good but not great QB for his career. If Mahomes ends up a 3x MVP, 11x Pro-Bowler. a bunch of all-pros and named to all decade teams, I think that's good enough for me as a Chiefs fan, considering he's already given us a SB along with another appearance. 4 minutes ago, NeptunePenguins said: Marino in this era would put up 60 TDs and 6000 yards with ease and Mahomes is struggling to get 30 this year. Not at all an all-time QB if you struggle to put up 30 TDs in the easiest era ever. Tom Brady 2016-2019? Aaron Rodgers 2018, 2019? Or is that a different era? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NeptunePenguins said: I am just saying Mahomes will end up like Favre at best. A good but not great QB for his career. Mahomes putting up bad stats in 2021 is something Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Dan Marino wouldn't do. Marino in this era would put up 60 TDs and 6000 yards with ease and Mahomes is struggling to get 30 this year. Not at all an all-time QB if you struggle to put up 30 TDs in the easiest era ever. You must not have watched football when Favre was a thing. No QB respective of their era has had a peak like Favre. 3 straight MVPs is something these modern young QBs could only dream of. I get what you’re saying about Mahomes but let’s not take away from Favre here. Guy is an absolutely legendary QB Edited November 8, 2021 by ThatJaxxenGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Rodgers 2009-2014 Rodgers 109 rating 64-23 record 2015-2018 Rodgers 98.2 rating 30-24-1 record 2019-2021 Rodgers 107.5 rating 33-7 record Does that count? How about 5 of 6 seasons when Rivers turned 30? 08-10 rating 103.8 with a 30-18 record 11-16 rating 93 with a 42-54 record 17-18 rating 100.4 with a 22-11 record Humans are not video games. They have good seasons and bad seasons and mediocre seasons. We are talking about Mahomes at 5-4 and about a 92 rating over 9 games like he is done or something. We are actually taking about the last 30 days if you look at what he did weeks 1-4. Writing off an all time great over 5 games is special. Cousins was the best QB on the planet over 5 games last November. Could we draw conclusions there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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