flyguy1609 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 According to Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports, the Astros have engaged the Pirates on a potential Gerrit Cole trade. This report comes on the heels of a comment from Astros owner Jim Crane stating that the team expects to add a "high-end starter" before heading to spring training. Cole had been drawing heavy trade interest from the Yankees, but New York has not been able to match up with the Pirates on a deal that makes sense for both sides. Passan says Houston has floated outfielder Derek Fisher in a possible return package for Cole but adds that one of Kyle Tucker or Forrest Whitley -- the Astros' top two prospects -- would probably have to be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Would a Pollock + Tomas for Ellsbury swap get NY under their salary limit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy1609 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, DirtyDez said: Would a Pollock + Tomas for Ellsbury swap get NY under their salary limit? why would the Dbacks do that? I think better bet for Ellsbury is the Giants. The Giants can take salary on I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, flyguy1609 said: why would the Dbacks do that? I think better bet for Ellsbury is the Giants. The Giants can take salary on I believe. Not sure it was just thrown out by a radio guy here with Robertson in the deal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAS22 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, flyguy1609 said: According to Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports, the Astros have engaged the Pirates on a potential Gerrit Cole trade. This report comes on the heels of a comment from Astros owner Jim Crane stating that the team expects to add a "high-end starter" before heading to spring training. Cole had been drawing heavy trade interest from the Yankees, but New York has not been able to match up with the Pirates on a deal that makes sense for both sides. Passan says Houston has floated outfielder Derek Fisher in a possible return package for Cole but adds that one of Kyle Tucker or Forrest Whitley -- the Astros' top two prospects -- would probably have to be included. Don't see Tucker being available unless there's an extension window (and agreement) given before the deal is done (Cole only has two years of team control left). Whitley is completely off-limits I would imagine. If I had to guess, I think Darvish is the most likely acquisition. No comp pick, highest upside (in my opinion), might be able to get a deal done at 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmenSeattle Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, DirtyDez said: Not sure it was just thrown out by a radio guy here with Robertson in the deal too. Robertson + Ellsbury is what, $35 million next year? Even if the D'backs would do that from a player perspective they can't afford to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 hours ago, flyguy1609 said: According to Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports, the Astros have engaged the Pirates on a potential Gerrit Cole trade. This report comes on the heels of a comment from Astros owner Jim Crane stating that the team expects to add a "high-end starter" before heading to spring training. Cole had been drawing heavy trade interest from the Yankees, but New York has not been able to match up with the Pirates on a deal that makes sense for both sides. Passan says Houston has floated outfielder Derek Fisher in a possible return package for Cole but adds that one of Kyle Tucker or Forrest Whitley -- the Astros' top two prospects -- would probably have to be included. No thanks to either Tucker or Whitley playing in the NL Central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, GmenSeattle said: Robertson + Ellsbury is what, $35 million next year? Even if the D'backs would do that from a player perspective they can't afford to do that. Tomas and Pollock are 20 mil. With AZ's bullpen issues it's like paying Robertson a 1-yr deal to set up Bradley. Tomas has 45m remaining and he's a negative WAR player on a NL team so the difference with Ellsbury is 2-3-4 WAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAS22 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 6 hours ago, hrubes20 said: No thanks to either Tucker or Whitley playing in the NL Central. I love being in the AL now but man nothing like the Cubs and Cardinals being your division rivals. I miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 7 hours ago, DirtyDez said: Tomas and Pollock are 20 mil. With AZ's bullpen issues it's like paying Robertson a 1-yr deal to set up Bradley. Tomas has 45m remaining and he's a negative WAR player on a NL team so the difference with Ellsbury is 2-3-4 WAR. I don't think the Yankees would do it either though tbh. Robertson probably goes into 2018 as our 8th inning guy and Pollock and Tomas don't have a spot on the team anymore than Ellsbury does. We're already under the cap if we don't add another big salary. Plus I'd rather pay $20M to one 5th/6th outfielder taking up a spot on the 40, than two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 We'd be much better off sending Ellsbury somewhere he's willing to waive his NTC, swapping down on prospects, and paying part of his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Thought Cole to the Yankees was a done deal. Him on the Astros would be quite good if that were to happen IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 10 hours ago, CAS22 said: I love being in the AL now but man nothing like the Cubs and Cardinals being your division rivals. I miss it. We definitely appreciate you leaving just as you got good. Having a market size of 8 people and being stuck in the same division as the Cubs, Astros, and Devil Magic would just be unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartica4Real Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: We definitely appreciate you leaving just as you got good. Having a market size of 8 people and being stuck in the same division as the Cubs, Astros, and Devil Magic would just be unfair. It's mutually beneficial, much rather be in the AL West. With how good and young both teams are, one of the Stros/Cubs being relegated to the Wild Card every year would be crazy. Can't lie though, it'd be fun. Playing the Angels/Mariners/A's just doesn't feel any different than normal games, and terrible start times for us when playing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrubes20 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Spartica4Real said: It's mutually beneficial, much rather be in the AL West. With how good and young both teams are, one of the Stros/Cubs being relegated to the Wild Card every year would be crazy. Can't lie though, it'd be fun. Playing the Angels/Mariners/A's just doesn't feel any different than normal games, and terrible start times for us when playing them. That's what would get me. I wouldn't be able to watch the end of a lot of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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