Rainmaker90 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, persiandud said: This is not a good matchup for us But if we play a clean game I think we got this. Can't come out slow like we have most of the season. Have to put the pressure on them early Really could go either way though. They have a hell of a roster. Should be a dandy! I’m not sure I agree with this take anymore. Offensively , if we block well, Aaron is going to destroy this secondary . If they don’t have Bosa, I’m not too worried about their pass rush. Defensively they have fine pieces that can give us trouble but so does everyone. They don’t have the running game to dominate like last NFCCG, Jaire should be fine vs Deebo, Stokes fine vs Aiyuk . Kittle is scary but they also have Jimmy G. Block, stop the run, take advantage of Jimmy G’s mistakes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) Garoppolo looked pretty average against Dallas, with a disappointing (for the 49ers) number of high, low and off-target throws. If he is the same versus the Packers, you can mark down a W already. Unless the Packers come out like they did in week 1, they got this. Watching Dallas was weird because it featured some old McCarthy traits. Ezekiel had just 12 rushes, while Mitchell and Deebo (as a RB) had 37. Garoppolo had 25 pass attempts, Dak had 43. I won't say McCarthy made no changes (via OC Kellen Moore) to his offense through the game, I suspect not many, but I'll leave that to others who can break the game down. They (Dallas) just looking like they didn't want to be there, was extraordinary. Edited January 17, 2022 by OneTwoSixFive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persiandud Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: I’m not sure I agree with this take anymore. Offensively , if we block well, Aaron is going to destroy this secondary . If they don’t have Bosa, I’m not too worried about their pass rush. Defensively they have fine pieces that can give us trouble but so does everyone. They don’t have the running game to dominate like last NFCCG, Jaire should be fine vs Deebo, Stokes fine vs Aiyuk . Kittle is scary but they also have Jimmy G. Block, stop the run, take advantage of Jimmy G’s mistakes . Their secondary has improved during the course of the season, they're actually a pretty good pass defense overall And they have an elite running game. That's the mismatch, their strength against our weakness. We are still soft against the run, so it makes it imperative we score points and keep their offense in a negative game script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) Read the five pages of this that was posted after I went to bed and it's depressing. We are going to kick their ***! We are much better at setting the EDGE in the running game and light years ahead at ILB that we were two years ago. You guys are talking about the 2019 version of the Packers. Green Bay 30 San Francisco 17 First play of the game I want a designed run right to Dillon which goes right at Warner. I want Dillon to run that Mother ****er over and set the tone! We're coming and we're going to kick your *** for 60 minutes! Edited January 17, 2022 by Old Guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, persiandud said: Their secondary has improved during the course of the season, they're actually a pretty good pass defense overall And they have an elite running game. That's the mismatch, their strength against our weakness. We are still soft against the run, so it makes it imperative we score points and keep their offense in a negative game script. 7th in yards per game, 16 in yards per carry, isn't really what I'd consider an "elite" run offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persiandud Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, spilltray said: 7th in yards per game, 16 in yards per carry, isn't really what I'd consider an "elite" run offense. 5th in rush offense DVOA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, persiandud said: 5th in rush offense DVOA Still stretching hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persiandud Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, spilltray said: Still stretching hard. Packers rush def DVOA is 28th it's a mismatch like i said. their strength on our weakness. if you want to ignore the facts be my guest lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Just now, persiandud said: Packers rush def DVOA is 28th it's a mismatch like i said. their strength on our weakness. if you want to ignore the facts be my guest lol No I just don't consider it "elite". It's a top third ish run game, and they don't have the passing game to flesh it out. They also don't have a defense that can contain Rodgers/Adams. Their pass d is straight up bad, and the passing game is way more important than the run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 8 hours ago, FinneasGage said: we're gonna get blown out If we get blown out I'm pretty sure Rodgers will bolt the Packers, and we will begin a bit of a rebuild. I don't expect it to happen though .. Rodgers is going to be extremely focused in getting a ring this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persiandud Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, spilltray said: No I just don't consider it "elite". It's a top third ish run game, and they don't have the passing game to flesh it out. They also don't have a defense that can contain Rodgers/Adams. Their pass d is straight up bad, and the passing game is way more important than the run game. you're way off base lol their pass offense DVOA is also 5th in the NFL. they lead the league in YAC, Kittle and Samuel are game changers and Aiyuk has been dangerous of late their pass defense DVOA is 16th not "straight up bad" but average, and they've gotten better in recent weeks trusting their rookie CB Ambry Thomas over Josh Norman. their DL is formidable. we'll have to watch the practice reports to see if Bosa and Warner suit up, if they don't those are huge losses for them, but according to reports this morning i would expect both of them to play do not underestimate this team. they have as talented a roster as anyone in the NFL, and very smart minds in the coaching staff. this is going to be a very high level football match 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, persiandud said: Packers rush def DVOA is 28th it's a mismatch like i said. their strength on our weakness. if you want to ignore the facts be my guest lol We've allowed one 100 yard rusher this year. Most of our damage is from mobile QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, persiandud said: you're way off base lol their pass offense DVOA is also 5th in the NFL. they lead the league in YAC, Kittle and Samuel are game changers and Aiyuk has been dangerous of late their pass defense DVOA is 16th not "straight up bad" but average, and they've gotten better in recent weeks trusting their rookie CB Ambry Thomas over Josh Norman. their DL is formidable. we'll have to watch the practice reports to see if Bosa and Warner suit up, if they don't those are huge losses for them, but according to reports this morning i would expect both of them to play do not underestimate this team. they have as talented a roster as anyone in the NFL, and very smart minds in the coaching staff. this is going to be a very high level football match Oh come on. You can't watch them and say you consider that a good pass offense. Garrapalo is a middle.of the road QB at best, and everything has to go through him. As for the defense, yes their pass rush is solid, but it's not dominant. I'd argue it's comparable to.the Packers pass rush at best. You are conveniently ignoring that the Packers strengths are a worse matchup for them and focusing only on the other direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 48 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Read the five pages of this that was posted after I went to bed and it's depressing. We are going to kick their ***! We are much better at setting the EDGE in the running game and light years ahead at ILB that we were two years ago. You guys are talking about the 2019 version of the Packers. Green Bay 30 San Francisco 17 First play of the game I want a designed run right to Dillon which goes right at Warner. I want Dillon to run that Mother ****er over and set the tone! We're coming and we're going to kick your *** for 60 minutes! Seriously, idk why people are acting like scared children but it’s pathetic. Probably going to be a hard fought game, but we are a sizable favorite. If we play our best ball, we win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 In the 2020 playoffs, Jimmy G compted 6 passes for like 70 yards and they smoked us. Obviously that was an anomoly and a different defense, but I wouldn't say "if you stop Jimmy G you beat the 49ers". He's surely going to give you a few chances if they pass the ball but he really dosen't have to be the only guy to do damage either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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