NYRaider Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Jeremy408 said: Had that last year I think the new staff likes Eleumenor (was with them in NE), Leatherwood, and Good. I just hope that we bring in some competition at RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 As of right now I'd guess the starting defense is: DE - Ferrell NT - Butler DE - Nichols OLB - Crosby LB - Deablo LB - Perryman OLB - Jones CB - Mullen CB - Ya Shin SCB - Hobbs SS - Abram FS - Moehirg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I'd finish off free agency with Campbell, Mathieu, Kerr, and Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderChef Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 20 hours ago, drfrey13 said: I agree with the defense but I thought Graham likes bigger defensive linemen. Last year Giants d-line was Williams, Lawrence, and Sheldon. That is close to 1,000 lbs. NIcols, Ferrel, and Crosby is 820 lbs. Crosby and Ferrel are closer to the the size of the NY OLBs and Nichols is the same size as Williams. Billings is a possibility but I would not count on him to be a starter. I think we are more likely to see a big ugly signed or drafted and bumping Crosby to OLB. We will have a hard time stopping the run otherwise. I think Graham will use his players as they are best suited and get his best players on the field. I always felt the best patriots defense featured a big NT and a run stuffing DT with a more traditional 4-3 DE rushing from one side and a more traditional 3-4 OLB rushing from the other side. I expect graham to approach this Raiders defense that way. I think personnel wise our defense will be more of a 3-3-5 then a 4-2-5 Listen to Maxx at the pro bowl when he is talking to TJ Watt. He specifically says he feels he is way more explosive with his hand in the dirt, while Chandler Jones plays much better standing up and I think we line up with those two rushing from the outside with Ferrell and Nichols inside with Kiser and Perryman behind them with Deablo coming in on passing downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderChef Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 19 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: Unfortunately, I sincerely doubt we could land all 3. But even just 2 of them would be phenomenal in my book. Preferably Clark and McKinley. Clark could be a difference maker at LB and McKinley keeps Abram out of coverage. Wright would be a cherry on top, but CB is less of a concern for me right now. Clarke is the only one I have see consistently picked in the first 3 rounds and while i think we would be lucky to land him in the 3rd if he or Travis Jones or Ed Ingram are there I think you sprint to the podium to turn in the pick. I see wright SOMETIMES in the 3rd but mostly in the early 4th in mocks I think he could go either way. I think McKinley is being slept on big time. I think he could be had with one of our 2 back to back 5th round picks and provide a bigger impact then Hobbs had this year. I think McKinley is special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 11 hours ago, NYRaider said: As of right now I'd guess the starting defense is: DE - Ferrell NT - Butler DE - Nichols OLB - Crosby LB - Deablo LB - Perryman OLB - Jones CB - Mullen CB - Ya Shin SCB - Hobbs SS - Abram FS - Moehirg -You have Butler over Billings? -it's gonna be interesting to see what Ferrell does -Deablo vs Kiser will be intresting -tbh I like Averett over Mullen(who I've always liked also) -it'll be interesting to see what Hobbs looks like in a different system -I have Gillespie over Abram in this defensive scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said: -You have Butler over Billings? -it's gonna be interesting to see what Ferrell does -Deablo vs Kiser will be intresting -tbh I like Averett over Mullen(who I've always liked also) -it'll be interesting to see what Hobbs looks like in a different system -I have Gillespie over Abram in this defensive scheme Billings hardly played last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 11 hours ago, NYRaider said: I think the new staff likes Eleumenor (was with them in NE), Leatherwood, and Good. I just hope that we bring in some competition at RT. They cut him in NE which is why he ended up in Vegas. Food for thought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 24 minutes ago, big_palooka said: They cut him in NE which is why he ended up in Vegas. Food for thought. Right. I mentioned this the other day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, RaiderChef said: I think Graham will use his players as they are best suited and get his best players on the field. I always felt the best patriots defense featured a big NT and a run stuffing DT with a more traditional 4-3 DE rushing from one side and a more traditional 3-4 OLB rushing from the other side. I expect graham to approach this Raiders defense that way. I think personnel wise our defense will be more of a 3-3-5 then a 4-2-5 Listen to Maxx at the pro bowl when he is talking to TJ Watt. He specifically says he feels he is way more explosive with his hand in the dirt, while Chandler Jones plays much better standing up and I think we line up with those two rushing from the outside with Ferrell and Nichols inside with Kiser and Perryman behind them with Deablo coming in on passing downs. The Patriots defense is 1 thing but I am looking at how Graham had the Giants structured. He will use the players to the best of their abilities but there was no way he is showing up week 1 with the biggest d-line weighing in at 302. They are actually grabbing some NTs but none are very impressive so far in their careers. I hope Travis Jones falls to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 7:20 PM, Humble_Beast said: QB Carr Gilbert RB Jacobs Drake Bolden Ragas Abdullah FB Johnson Smith WR Adams Robinson J Wims WR Edwards Hollins Stoner Slot Renfrow T Johnson Turner TE Waller Moreau Hollister Bowers LT Miller B Parker LG Leatherwood Simpson Cotton C James Grasu B Heggie RG Good Bars Seymour Meredith RT Eluemunor W Sweet Barton DE Crosby Ferrell Green NT Butler Billings Peko PJ Johnson DE Nichols Vickers OLB C Jones Koonce ILB Deablo March-Lillard ILB Perryman Kiser OLB Fackrell CB Rock Averett LeBlanc CB Mullen Phillips Slot Hobbs Robertson FS Moehrig Leavitt Teamer J Brown SS Abram Gillespie Jamerson K Carlson P Cole LS Sieg updated to include 3-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 I'm a little nervous about Deablo as a ILB if we go that route. We would need another ILB for depth. Also would need another OLB rushing edge. Could also use another stout DE. Vickers likely cut. our NT are just meh too... Butler has been a bust, Peko is barely and NFL player, and Billings was on a practice squad last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 I think Maxx will play with this hand in the dirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 9 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: updated to include 3-4 I think right now as we haven't heard anything from the new coaching staff on the O-line that it would be more accurate to go similar to what we had last year: Miller - Simpson - James - Good - Leatherwood or Miller - Simpson - James - Leatherwood - Parker I know there's an article floating around about Leatherwood having the mannerisms for the left side but it feels like the days of when Joyner was pegged at safety in depth charts *Granted I also believe there was no reason to bench Eluemunor last year and ranked his play better than Simpson and Leatherwood at G. The defense is a tough one to predict this year and I have a feeling we only use one natural 3-4 OLB in Jones and then use Deablo as a coverage OLB... but I also have nothing to base this off 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Parker got $3.5M, he's going to start at RT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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