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2 minutes ago, Ozzy said:

He also has Joe Burrow as his quarterback and ultimately if Joe Burrow likes him then that is all he needs to worry about and he is in for being the HC of Cincinnati for the next 10 years or so especially after the season they had this year.

 

Sure you can give all the credit you want to him but fact is the roster wins football games, the coach just helps lead the team but they could have easily been successful with a different HC because it is about the players not the coach.  Having arguably the best young new QB in the NFL helps a bit as well.

 

Obvious pattern of hire a McVay assistants to make your great QB happy, happened in Green Bay, happened in Cincinnati and happened with the Chargers.  Only difference is all those teams have great QBs, the Vikings do not.  

I can’t keep up, you keep contradicting yourself. 

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5 minutes ago, Ozzy said:

He also has Joe Burrow as his quarterback and ultimately if Joe Burrow likes him then that is all he needs to worry about and he is in for being the HC of Cincinnati for the next 10 years or so especially after the season they had this year.

 

Sure you can give all the credit you want to him but fact is the roster wins football games, the coach just helps lead the team but they could have easily been successful with a different HC because it is about the players not the coach.  Having arguably the best young new QB in the NFL helps a bit as well.

 

Obvious pattern of hire a McVay assistants to make your great QB happy, happened in Green Bay, happened in Cincinnati and happened with the Chargers.  Only difference is all those teams have great QBs, the Vikings do not.  

If you take everything in your post about Cincinnati and instead say it about the Vikings then your post makes absolutely no sense.  The Vikings have a stacked roster, but had coaching issues that they weren’t able to overcome…. Also despite countless penalties and 3rd and long situations Kirk Cousins arguably outplayed the Joe Burrow when we played the Bengals this year.  The only real reason that we lost was a missed field goal and Baushad Breeland giving up that long touchdown to JaMarr Chase.

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8 minutes ago, battle2heaven said:

I can’t keep up, you keep contradicting yourself. 

Then go follow Zac Taylor and Kevin O'Connell and treat them like the best offensive minds in football, have fun with that.  

 

Doug Pederson won a Super Bowl and a few years later he was fired.  Pretend it is not a results based business and both where hired or might be hired as a head coach because they were connected to someone successful.  Sure they might turn out, or they might be fired in 3 years.  

 

 

1 minute ago, Kparty15 said:

If you take everything in your post about Cincinnati and instead say it about the Vikings then your post makes absolutely no sense.  The Vikings have a stacked roster, but had coaching issues that they weren’t able to overcome…. Also despite countless penalties and 3rd and long situations Kirk Cousins arguably outplayed the Joe Burrow when we played the Bengals this year.  The only real reason that we lost was a missed field goal and Baushad Breeland giving up that long touchdown to JaMarr Chase.

So now you are saying Joe Burrow is not a better QB than Kirk Cousins.  Ok.  I am not talking about one football game played by the Vikings against the Bengals, sorry.  "Stacked roster", that secondary is awful especially at corner and they had some of the worst rated starting corners in the NFL, stacked roster?  Oh and the OG position is a mess especially Udoh and his issues not to mention the LT issues.

To even pretend Zac Taylor's coaching is the reason the Bengals are in the Super Bowl, yeah he helped but he is not the reason, having Joe Burrow and arguably the best offensive weapons in football helped them get to the Super Bowl.  Not team has three WRs that good much less a productive and skilled RB and TE.  They win even with a poor OL because all those other guys are so great.  Helps having one of the best safeties duos in the NFL also and a solid LB core and two good consistent edge rushers.  

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The Rams leaned on O’Connell this season as they reworked Sean McVay’s system to accentuate some of the dropback concepts in which Matthew Stafford thrives. O’Connell doesn’t call plays, but he’s a key part of the design process and he’s the singular communicator on the sideline with Stafford and the other quarterbacks after drives when McVay’s attention is needed elsewhere. O’Connell has a ton of respect from players because he is a connector who gets along with everybody. Perhaps most underrated among his contributions is his development of undrafted free agent quarterback Bryce Perkins, whom the Rams kept on their active roster all through the season.

This is a small part from Chad Graff’s article in The Athletic regarding Kevin O’Connell.

Play calling is a small portion of what offensive coordinators can be responsible for. And it holds very little water as to how they will be as a head coach. 

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