RSkinGM Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 hours ago, turtle28 said: Bogus. If they weren’t in love w/ Chase they wouldn’t have drafted him. It sounds like an opinion that WalterFootball may have heard, doesn’t mean it’s true. People are planting things & did plant things. So by this, I guess you think they "in Love" with D Haskins ? or they wouldn't have drafted him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, RSkinGM said: So by this, I guess you think they "in Love" with D Haskins ? or they wouldn't have drafted him . Give me a break. There is absolutely no way Rivera would've signed on and then immediately let Dan make the pick. Like I said, anybody currently arguing there was a better prospect going into that draft than Chase Young is being ridiculous. I know you can't stand the guy and that's your prerogative but had we passed on Chase Young he immediately would've gone with the next pick. This whole conversation is stupid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 hours ago, RSkinGM said: So by this, I guess you think they "in Love" with D Haskins ? or they wouldn't have drafted him . I would expect a more rational response from you. Think about it, who is the reason that we drafted Haskins? And did that 1 person live Haskins & tell everyone else we’re taking him over the football operations guys he hired disapproval? Dan Snyder loved Haskins. He told Brice, Jay & Kyle that’s who we are taking. So yeah, the owner loved Haskins and they drafted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, lavar703 said: Give me a break. There is absolutely no way Rivera would've signed on and then immediately let Dan make the pick. Like I said, anybody currently arguing there was a better prospect going into that draft than Chase Young is being ridiculous. I know you can't stand the guy and that's your prerogative but had we passed on Chase Young he immediately would've gone with the next pick. This whole conversation is stupid. Yeah and I would hate to be watching Gerron Christian, Lucas & Moses try to block Chase Young two times a year last year for the Giants. If we had taken Tua or Herbert, they would’ve gotten sacked a lot in our 2 Giants games. Cosmi/Lucas vs Chase seems like a major mismatch too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mar29020 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Chase said " i'm ready to get out there commanding". Man i hate this stupid cheesy name. We literally picked a name so we can use it for good PR with the millitary as a shield. Such a disaster of a organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 18 hours ago, mar29020 said: Chase said " i'm ready to get out there commanding". Man i hate this stupid cheesy name. We literally picked a name so we can use it for good PR with the millitary as a shield. Such a disaster of a organization. Regardless of the name, I sure hope we find a good starting QB which gives us some hope, our #2 WR & starting TE get and stay healthy & our D bounces back to have a good year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 This is clearly someone projecting thoughts now. Young was the best non-QB prospect, and it wasn't even close. There was no way this team was not all-in on Chase Young, especially with Rivera's background with defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 4 hours ago, naptownskinsfan said: This is clearly someone projecting thoughts now. Young was the best non-QB prospect, and it wasn't even close. There was no way this team was not all-in on Chase Young, especially with Rivera's background with defense. And Herbert was thought of by no one as the #2 overall prospect- mostly bc of the dumb reading that he’s an introvert but still. If we took a QB #2, it was going to be Tua who’s been average so far & taps out as a good talent but not elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 12:09 PM, turtle28 said: Bogus. If they weren’t in love w/ Chase they wouldn’t have drafted him. It sounds like an opinion that WalterFootball may have heard, doesn’t mean it’s true. People are planting things & did plant things. Mike Shanahan didn't love RG3 but low and behold, we know how that turned out. We KNOW for a FACT that Dan Snyder has a hand in everything this team does. As shrimp boat captain as Dan is, he still holds all the money that pays all the bills, which includes paychecks. Now, Walter is walter. He is a good dude, but he does things for click bait. His site is a freakin billboard of ads, and takes a while to load, but he has worked hard to get where he is regardless of his track record. And yes, his track record is no better than a politician. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 6 hours ago, turtle28 said: And Herbert was thought of by no one as the #2 overall prospect- mostly bc of the dumb reading that he’s an introvert but still. If we took a QB #2, it was going to be Tua who’s been average so far & taps out as a good talent but not elite. I would never draft an Alabama QB. That is my Bill Parcells of QB scouting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 7 hours ago, turtle28 said: And Herbert was thought of by no one as the #2 overall prospect- mostly bc of the dumb reading that he’s an introvert but still. If we took a QB #2, it was going to be Tua who’s been average so far & taps out as a good talent but not elite. I’ve read a number of things suggesting that, even at the time, they had no interest in Tua and Herbert was their QB2 behind Burrow. I think it came up around the time that we were getting connected to Tua in trade talks (when MIA was supposed to be on the brink of trading for Watson), and our beat guys kept saying they didn’t think so because we never really liked Tua to begin with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghostnote said: Mike Shanahan didn't love RG3 but low and behold, we know how that turned out. We KNOW for a FACT that Dan Snyder has a hand in everything this team does. As shrimp boat captain as Dan is, he still holds all the money that pays all the bills, which includes paychecks. Now, Walter is walter. He is a good dude, but he does things for click bait. His site is a freakin billboard of ads, and takes a while to load, but he has worked hard to get where he is regardless of his track record. And yes, his track record is no better than a politician. I think it’s more than just Dan. Rivera was just hired we all knew the defensive minded HC was going to take the generational talent at DE over a QB who was coming off a dislocated hip. Rivera was going to take Chase 100 times out of 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, e16bball said: I’ve read a number of things suggesting that, even at the time, they had no interest in Tua and Herbert was their QB2 behind Burrow. I think it came up around the time that we were getting connected to Tua in trade talks (when MIA was supposed to be on the brink of trading for Watson), and our beat guys kept saying they didn’t think so because we never really liked Tua to begin with. Interesting. I sure hope that was the case because it makes me feel much better about our scouting department, Ron & Scotty that they wanted Herbert over Tua. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I mean, its possible that they werent "in love" with any player at the number 2 pick, but couldnt find a trading partner, so they just took the one they thought would be the best with a top 5 pedigree. And I also imagine Dan had some input. And I imagine, of all his input, he probably was gunshy about a QB. I mean .... of all the guys picked 2-10 that aren't quarterbacks, Chase is the only one who made a Pro Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir L Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I’m not a chase lover but remember when we thought his energy reminded us of Sean Taylor we were very positive about him. 2021 shouldn’t count he was injured but I would trade him if it meant we land Rodgers, Wilson or Watson! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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