mse326 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Two disengagements from the rubber -- including pickoff attempts -- per plate appearance I have some issues with all of them, but this one is downright stupid; at least the pickoff part. After a 2nd disengagement the runner will just go to the next base(s) before the pitches are even thrown and there is nothing the defense can do about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 14 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/34551389/major-league-baseball-competition-committee-vote-rules-changes-friday-eye-quickening-pace-play-sources-say For every positive there's a gigantic, stupid negative. Why are they banning the shift? I can at least mentally talk myself into this one as there's already at least some semblance of a precedent in terms of having catchers as the only position player who can be outside of fair territory, and as a result I'd lean more towards liking the "have to be on the dirt" aspect for infielders vs. outfielders instead of limiting which side of the field. 14 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Why are they banning timeouts effectively? This one I can actually get behind for hitters. A college teammate of mine used to automatically call timeout every time he had 2 strikes on him with a runner on base when the pitcher would come set. 14 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: WHY ARE YOU LIMITING ******* PICKOFFS?!?! They have no idea what they're doing to the sport. This one is nothing short of egregious. Essentially no pitcher will throw over twice and if he does then the runner can jog to 2nd or 3rd base unimpeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Not being able to pick guys off isn't even going to make the games shorter it's going to make them exponentially longer because guys are going to be stealing bags left and right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Banning these things and implementing a hard clock, idk what you wanna call it, effectively makes this not baseball. You can call it whatever you want, but it's not baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Just now, Thelonebillsfan said: Not being able to pick guys off isn't even going to make the games shorter it's going to make them exponentially longer because guys are going to be stealing bags left and right! If the MLB had a clue or actually cared, they'd invest in infrastructure into inner city communities and engage with the youth programs instead of allowing this to continue to devolve into a rich man's game. All it used to take was a glove, a couple of balls, and some cheap bats with some space. Now it's select travel teams and brand new uniforms with $1,500 summer buy ins so you can take your 9 year old to showcase tournaments. Not even joking. That's where we are folks. So much for Legion Ball until you get to HS and then playing select from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Enjoy the worst thing that you'll see today. Also, what grown man wears a baseball glove to a game? What punishment should we suggest here? @ramssuperbowl99 @Thelonebillsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: What punishment should we suggest here? @ramssuperbowl99 @Thelonebillsfan Lifetime Nationals fan seems like the punishment fits the crime. Gotta love the dude still wearing a Soto jersey. He'll come back in free agency, I'm sure of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 minute ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Lifetime Nationals fan seems like the punishment fits the crime. Gotta love the dude still wearing a Soto jersey. He'll come back in free agency, I'm sure of it. I laughed, then remembered the 2019 World Series, then remembered my Francisco Lindor Jersey that I've got hanging in my closet that I have no idea what to do with. Between the Indians script on the front, the 2016 World Series Patch on the sleeve, and the Lindor on the back...well now I'm depressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I laughed, then remembered the 2019 World Series, then remembered my Francisco Lindor Jersey that I've got hanging in my closet that I have no idea what to do with. Between the Indians script on the front, the 2016 World Series Patch on the sleeve, and the Lindor on the back...well now I'm depressed. Ha yeah to be clear not making fun of him for Soto leaving, making fun of him for still wearing the jersey after he's gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Rules changes official. This sport is in dire straits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Rules changes official. This sport is in dire straits. Explain Doom and Gloom. Banning the shift is excellent for the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Mesa_Titan said: Explain Doom and Gloom. Banning the shift is excellent for the sport. Nope. Hitters learning how to approach hitting better so they go the other way on pitches that aren't driveable is excellent for the sport. Incentivizing not doing that is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, mse326 said: Nope. Hitters learning how to approach hitting better so they go the other way on pitches that aren't driveable is excellent for the sport. Incentivizing not doing that is not. In a way, I agree but I also feel like it's an unrealistic expectation. Pitching is as good as it's ever been. Pitchers throw harder with more movement and more control than ever. It's not as easy as "just go the other way" anymore. Most times, when guys go the other way on non-driveable pitches, they are weak hits. Nobody cares about weak hits. I feel like banning the shift is kinda bull**** but I also see where they are coming from. It's the other rules that I'm more annoyed with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 52 minutes ago, mse326 said: Nope. Hitters learning how to approach hitting better so they go the other way on pitches that aren't driveable is excellent for the sport. Incentivizing not doing that is not. Meh, that’s an opinion. Not a far fetched one, but it’s factual that more offense is better for the game as far as watchability goes. As much as I like pitchers duels, offense is too down across the board. And unless you’re a fan of altering the mound again, which I am not. It needs fixed. Banning the shift is a perfect solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Wonder how much Lefty averages will go up. I love the pitch clock. Finally more that benefits the pitching. now all they have to do is get rid of the extra innings runner. Dumbest rule ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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