Jroc04 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 We’re also assuming ANY other teams were willing to trade next years 1st. If Howie was at the owners meeting and was asking for a next years 1st for a 1st this year and only a couple teams were interested, then he got what he wanted. Sometimes you aren’t negotiating from a point of power. Opposite of the Miami trade. Still like it. No way Howie was taking 3 1sts. I think we all knew it would be a trade up or down with at least one of them. Kicking the can over to 2023 and picking up some ammo for this year is fine with me. Hell, just having that flexibility is worth some capital. A disgruntled veteran, a trade up for a QB next year, having the option to kick the can again, making a desperate team overpay, it’s smart economics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Carson Wentz or this haul? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: Carson Wentz or this haul? Essentially evens out the 2016 Wentz trade from Howie’s books + a 1st if you expand it out with the Bradford trade it let them do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: Carson Wentz or this haul? The 2021 3rd was used to trade up for Devonta so we didn't even use that pick lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Like the trade but damn, makes it kinda hard to address everything with a guy I like. We have so many short and long term needs man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Danger said: 16 - 1000 19 - 875 194 - 12.2 ----- 1887.2 18 - 900 101 - 96 2023 1st - 410 2024 2nd - 54 -------- 1460 Howie kinda got bent over. Just a really odd take to look at this trade and say we got bent over. The only way you can come to this conclusion is to ignore absolutely all context and go by a strictly numerical system that means absolutely nothing. If you want to say it wasn't a great trade and that the value was kinda average I could see your point. This idea that it is a bad trade and we got bent over makes..... absolutely no sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Just now, AZ_Eaglesfan said: Just a really odd take to look at this trade and say we got bent over. The only way you can come to this conclusion is to ignore absolutely all context and go by a strictly numerical system that means absolutely nothing. If you want to say it wasn't a great trade and that the value was kinda average I could see your point. This idea that it is a bad trade and we got bent over makes..... absolutely no sense. Numerically speaking. In reality I don't think it's that bad, though I definitely feel Howie could've done better, and it's kinda underwhelming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimonas Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Danger said: Numerically speaking. In reality I don't think it's that bad, though I definitely feel Howie could've done better, and it's kinda underwhelming. What would have made the deal good for you? I'm curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Danger said: Numerically speaking. In reality I don't think it's that bad, though I definitely feel Howie could've done better, and it's kinda underwhelming. I just really doubt many teams are looking to trade out of next years likely stacked QB draft to get more picks in this years very lackluster QB class. Still have two first round picks this year and picked up an extra third. Five picks in the top 101, 3 in the top 51. We are going to be getting a talent influx regardless if Howie can hit on these picks like he did last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jroc04 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 It’s alllllll about Hurts, let’s be honest. Howie gets to keep that ammo in his back pocket in case Hurts flops. Our 2023 and the Saints 2023 + whatever other sweetener will get you where you want to go most likely for a top 5 team that doesn’t need a QB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, TheRealMcCoy said: He got more value than I thought he would be capable of getting. Your values for the 2023 1st rounder and 2024 2nd rounder are way off/wrong. I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Danger said: Numerically speaking. In reality I don't think it's that bad, though I definitely feel Howie could've done better, and it's kinda underwhelming. Maybe, depends how the draft goes. Much like the Dolphins trade last year, got an opportunity that he was hoping would be there draft day early and took it. Their number one goal should be getting the QB of the future figured out. Missing out on Wilson, and Watson in a year they didn’t see many answers in the draft (if any)…getting ammo in future years set goes towards that goal. Staying at 18 kept a lot of value there. They can get a solid player or trade that for even more on draft day. Having Green Bay and KC pick twice each and need wideouts should keep the value of #18 high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jroc04 said: It’s alllllll about Hurts, let’s be honest. Howie gets to keep that ammo in his back pocket in case Hurts flops. Our 2023 and the Saints 2023 + whatever other sweetener will get you where you want to go most likely for a top 5 team that doesn’t need a QB. Hope the Panthers do get Willis because they’d be a target to trade up with in 2023, they’re gonna suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kiltman said: Hope the Panthers do get Willis because they’d be a target to trade up with in 2023, they’re gonna suck. Panthers take Pickett, Seahawks take Willis and that is two really bad teams not looking for a QB. Edited April 5, 2022 by AZ_Eaglesfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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