vike daddy Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 hours ago, battle2heaven said: According to SKOR North’s Darren Wolfson, the Vikings are hosting Stanford quarterback Tanner McKee on a top-30 visit. McKee is a very unique prospect to evaluate. At 23, McKee served a Mormon mission before attending Stanford where he started for two seasons once Davis Mills went to the NFL. A very similar build and style, McKee is a prototypical pocket passer with great touch and accuracy. He isn’t going to beat you with his legs, but his arm will crush you. The unique part about his evaluation is that he played at Stanford. The Cardinals had an atrocious scheme and the offense played poorly because of it. Extrapolating all of that makes things difficult, but make no mistake. McKee can throw a football. https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2023/04/11/vikings-nfl-draft-top-30-tanner-mckee/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0i_GEBabdCK10shPxtX52cTMKVrrx0ACJwBV8TwLfOCKq4nbxE6bvkKt8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 FYI, listening to Ben Goessling on PA about an hour ago. PA asked him, if Levis is there at 23, what happens? Ben thinks Vikings will pass on him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 Am I the only one who thinks that the Vikings are really playing it close to the vest this year about the players they're interested in this year? The leaks about top-30 visits have been really slim, and appear to be for later on potential picks like Tanner McKee and Evan Hull. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boda Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, swede700 said: Am I the only one who thinks that the Vikings are really playing it close to the vest this year about the players they're interested in this year? The leaks about top-30 visits have been really slim, and appear to be for later on potential picks like Tanner McKee and Evan Hull. Definitedly not. I think if Skoronski falls the Vikings take him & move him to guard. Curious what Cleveland could net in a return for a team looking for a LT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, swede700 said: Am I the only one who thinks that the Vikings are really playing it close to the vest this year about the players they're interested in this year? The leaks about top-30 visits have been really slim, and appear to be for later on potential picks like Tanner McKee and Evan Hull. Yes. Which is why I do think there is a plan to trade up for one of the top 4 QBs (I personally think they like Levis). Whether they can find a pathway to execute that plan is yet to be seen. But it should make the draft entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 hours ago, SemperFeist said: Yes. Which is why I do think there is a plan to trade up for one of the top 4 QBs (I personally think they like Levis). Whether they can find a pathway to execute that plan is yet to be seen. But it should make the draft entertaining. I think/hope we are putting together a strategy to grab a “top 3” QB, then trade Cook & Z Smith for direct trade capital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Vikings need to really trade back into the 2nd and ideally get two 2nd rounders. Could be awesome to get a edge player with Hunter and Wonnum free agents in 2024, Davenport a free agent as well and I assume Z. Smith is gone this year. Then get a CB and there would be plenty to pick from. Also could maybe get a ILB or a WR if those other spots or gone or a big time NT and there would be three to pick from possibly. Could get some great value for edge rushers and NTs and CBs. OLB/Edge Isaiah Foskey Notre Dame RS JR OLB/DE Byron Young Tennessee SR DE/OLB Andre Carter II Army JR DE/OLBBJ Ojulari LSU JR OLB/DE Will McDonald IV Iowa State RS SR OLB Derick Hall Auburn SR DE/OLB Jumbo Edge or 3/4 DE Tuli Tuipuloutu USC JR DT/DE Adetomiwa Adebawore Northwestern SR DE/DT CB slot or boundary Antonio Johnson Texas A&M JR CB/S Clark Phillips III Utah RS SOPH CB Emmanuel Forbes Miss State JR CB Kelee Ringo Georgia RS SOPH CB Jartavius Martin Illinois SR S/CB SR S Mekhi Garner LSU RS JR S/CB Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson TCU SR CB Cam Smith South Carolina JR CB NT or power DE Mazi Smith Michigan SR NT Siaki Ika Baylor RS JR NT Keeanu Benton Wisconsin JR NT ILB Jack Campbell Iowa SR ILB Drew Sanders Arkansas JR OLB Trenton Simpson Clemson JR OLB DeMarvion Overshown Texas RS SR LB WR Quentin Johnston TCU JR WR Zay Flowers Boston College SR WRJalin Hyatt Tennessee JR WR AT Perry Wake Forest RS JR WR Marvin Mims Oklahoma JR WR Sure some of these guys could be 1st rounders but maybe should be around possibly in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: I think/hope we are putting together a strategy to grab a “top 3” QB, then trade Cook & Z Smith for direct trade capital Not sure it is worth it because the difference between Stroud/Young and everyone else is pretty massive. So unless it is a top 2 QB it is not really a good idea. Not to mention a former #3 overall pick was traded for a 5th rounder, sure he is not as proven but at best they could get a 2nd rounder for those guys but most likely it is a 3rd or 4th rounder.... Richardson and Levis are athletically gifted but I would be shocked if either one is better than Stroud or Young in the NFL, same with Hooker who is solid but does not have a huge upside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ozzy said: Not sure it is worth it because the difference between Stroud/Young and everyone else is pretty massive. So unless it is a top 2 QB it is not really a good idea. Not to mention a former #3 overall pick was traded for a 5th rounder, sure he is not as proven but at best they could get a 2nd rounder for those guys but most likely it is a 3rd or 4th rounder.... Richardson and Levis are athletically gifted but I would be shocked if either one is better than Stroud or Young in the NFL, same with Hooker who is solid but does not have a huge upside. What a pointless connection about trading a #3 pick for a 5th rounder. Maybe we should trade #23 for a 5th rounder too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: What a pointless connection about trading a #3 pick for a 5th rounder. Maybe we should trade #23 for a 5th rounder too Pointless? How about no, it is the fact that NFL trades are **** and rarely do you get back equal compensation or quality picks unless you are trading a top 10 QB. Dallas got Brandin Cooks for a 5th and a 6th rounder. Cleveland traded for Elijah Moore from the Jets and gave up a 2nd round pick but the Jets gave up Moore and a 3rd rounder to get that 2nd rounder. Hockenson last year the Vikings got for a 2nd round pick, got Hockenson and a 4th rounder from Detroit which I still do not get but obviously 2nd round picks much less 1st rounders rarely are involved in players outside of top end QBs. For Carolina to trade up and get a top QB prospect and #1 overall, they gave the Bears the 9th pick overall, 61st pick, then a 2024 1st rounder, and a 2025 2nd rounder and DJ Moore a promising young WR who had over 5000 yards receiving in his first five years in the NFL. Maybe Vikings can get a lot for Z. Smith or Cook but I doubt it. Either way once more, to dream a guy like Levis or Richardson is on par with the other top QBs in this draft, well they are not and probably not worth trading a crap ton of future 1st rounders away to get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticNorseman Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 3 hours ago, CriminalMind said: I think/hope we are putting together a strategy to grab a “top 3” QB, then trade Cook & Z Smith for direct trade capital So, you're ready to trade two pro-bowlers and a 1st round pick for a super high risk QB? I don't give two . . . . about their physical gifts if their brains and hearts don't match the price. Of Richardson and Levis, the former is atleast likable but he had some real dud film. Levis is a train wreck in waiting. So no, never give up those kinds of resources without an opportunity to improve the team . . . I.e.: sure, trade Cook for a 3rd, if you can get that. Then fill that pick with a body. The only trade to #3 overall I'd see worthwhile is Hunter and #23, plus next year's 2nd or 3rd so we could get Will Anderson, and even that's not a sure bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 18 hours ago, Boda said: Definitedly not. I think if Skoronski falls the Vikings take him & move him to guard. Curious what Cleveland could net in a return for a team looking for a LT Nothing. Because he's never played there in the pros. And he hasn't been great at guard. And he needs a new contract. At best, you could hope for a sixth or a swap for another similar player at a different position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted April 13, 2023 Author Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: Nothing. Because he's never played there in the pros. And he hasn't been great at guard. And he needs a new contract. At best, you could hope for a sixth or a swap for another similar player at a different position. Cleveland was a very good guard last year until Bradbury went down. He's definitely not a LT though. Edited April 13, 2023 by swede700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, swede700 said: Cleveland was a very good guard last year until Bradbury went down. He's definitely not a LT though. He wasn't that good. Even before Bradbury got hurt. Good run blocker, pretty bad pass blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Cleveland is average. And average IOL are always going to look worse with a QB like Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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