Spartacus Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 15 hours ago, {Family Ghost} said: 2019 is an A ... studs in Gary and Jenkins, and a potential standout in Savage. That's enough for an A grade. Yeah peoples opinions on good drafts are really odd. Two probowler talent level players and an average starter with a chance to be something more is an easy A. Keke, Holman, and Summers at least played some productive snaps at the back end of the draft with Summers still being a legit special teams body and emergency LB. Its an easy A to A- draft IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Spartacus said: Yeah peoples opinions on good drafts are really odd. Two probowler talent level players and an average starter with a chance to be something more is an easy A. Keke, Holman, and Summers at least played some productive snaps at the back end of the draft with Summers still being a legit special teams body and emergency LB. Its an easy A to A- draft IMO. But they had 8 picks, shouldn't they have had 8 Pro Bowlers? 2 is only 25%, that is an F for sure. #Gutessucks #FireGutes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanLoveFTW Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 4 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: The chances of finding a guy who will start games on his second contract in each round is about: 1st: 50% 2nd: 25% 3rd: 12% 4th: 10% 5th-7th: 8% On average you should get about 1.21 second contract starters from a draft class. This draft got us 3, 2 of which are studs, 1 of whom is a stud at a premium. We killed it. + If you don't like that way of looking at things, compare the draft classes. We had, at worst, the 4th best draft. Median grade should be a C. That means there should be 6.4 teams in each letter grade. 6 A's 6 B's 7 C's 7 D's 6 F's The #4 spot falls pretty easily into that A classification. + Coming up with a means of evaluating this draft that isn't an A is very difficult. Where did you find the odds of getting a second contract player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgwingman Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 20 hours ago, Brit Pack said: You guys on crack or got really unrealistic expectations of a draft if you don't think this was a class draft!!! Yeah it seems like people grade a draft on what's theoretically possible at a 0.1% chance (selecting a pro bowler at each pick). By that metric no one has a great draft. If you compare our draft to the other 31 teams, we had a great draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, R T said: But they had 8 picks, shouldn't they have had 8 Pro Bowlers? 2 is only 25%, that is an F for sure. #Gutessucks #FireGutes FireGute.com (I used to own that website, not kidding) Should I bring it back? Lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 37 minutes ago, JordanLoveFTW said: Where did you find the odds of getting a second contract player? Guessing they are estimations. Using 2017 as an example, there were five 5th rounders, four 6th rounders and one 7th rounder. That is 10 of 108 picks, a 9.25% rate which I think is higher than most years for late round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, JordanLoveFTW said: Where did you find the odds of getting a second contract player? An analysis I did of draft history a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgbeethree Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Not one mention of how we should have drafted McLaurin instead of Stoneburner? The draft gets an F and all of your grades get an F as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refugee Posted May 31, 2022 Author Share Posted May 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, wgbeethree said: Not one mention of how we should have drafted McLaurin instead of Stoneburner? The draft gets an F and all of your grades get an F as well. It was mentioned in the very first post. F your F! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, wgbeethree said: Not one mention of how we should have drafted McLaurin instead of Stoneburner? The draft gets an F and all of your grades get an F as well. Screw you, I get a D+ and with the curve that is an A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Refugee said: It was mentioned in the very first post. F your F! Did anyone mention mclaurin over Sternberger yet? I found out yesterday on Wikipedia that we could have drafted him yesterday, even though I had no idea who he was the day of the draft, but what a huge mistake that I am definitely the first person to have ever talked about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, Norm said: Did anyone mention mclaurin over Sternberger yet? I found out yesterday on Wikipedia that we could have drafted him yesterday, even though I had no idea who he was the day of the draft, but what a huge mistake that I am definitely the first person to have ever talked about. I said that we should have taken McLaurin in the draft thread. Go back and read the entire thing, it is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanLoveFTW Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) I think a good team drafts well every year and then loses a few players for $$ reasons every year. Then they get two comp picks every year like TT seemed to do. With the 9 picks you get each year, 4 players makes in an A. But if they’re all MVS level players maybe it’s a B. 3 players is either an A or a B depending on quality of players. 2 players is a B or a C depending on quality of players. 1 player could be a B- or a D depending on quality of player. We got three players. One is an injured pro bowler. The next is an up and coming pro bowler. The third has a chance to be a pro bowler some day. It’s close to an A, but more like a B or B+. Thompsons first draft was an A. A HOF QB, a star safety and Poppinga. That’s what an A draft looks like. This draft is below the best and therefor not an A. Edited May 31, 2022 by JordanLoveFTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanLoveFTW Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Gute is doing void years to keep players for a year or two but then when they leave he’s not getting comp picks. He’s setting himself up for less draft picks and that is his fault. He still has to live up to the TT standards with what he gives himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said: I said that we should have taken McLaurin in the draft thread. Go back and read the entire thing, it is there. I don't know if I believe you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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