Joe Barry'd again

[vegas492]

33 minutes ago, Mdpackfan22 said:

MLF will be on the hot seat this offseason depending how this year ends. He needs to knock the DC hire out of the park. With our young players, cap space and draft capital, a top DC should be able to turn this unit into a top 5 defense.

You are right.  A top DC should.

But we won't get a top DC.  We never have.  Why would this off-season be any different?  I mean, I hope we do too, but we just have never really prioritized that hire.

[Mdpackfan22]

10 minutes ago, vegas492 said:

You are right.  A top DC should.

But we won't get a top DC.  We never have.  Why would this off-season be any different?  I mean, I hope we do too, but we just have never really prioritized that hire.

I think Lafleur is finally fed up with the soft bend don't break style defense 

[Zycho32]

27 minutes ago, Mdpackfan22 said:

I think Lafleur is finally fed up with the soft bend don't break style defense 

Never discount the Ego. MLF's going to have to prove he can go outside of his comfort zone on this one.

[Uffdaswede]

1 hour ago, Mdpackfan22 said:

I think Lafleur is finally fed up with the soft bend don't break style defense 

I wanted LeFleuer to be great. I thought he would be. I thought AR12 was holding Matt back.

 I thought GameStop was going to keep going up.

[incognito_man]

2 hours ago, Mdpackfan22 said:

I think Lafleur is finally fed up with the soft bend don't break style defense 

I've thought that about 6 different times now. I've given up.

[Leader]

2 minutes ago, incognito_man said:

I've thought that about 6 different times now. I've given up.

So that would mean you're done bending and have broken?

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Leader

[Packerraymond]

This is what happens when you jump on a trend right before it gets solved like we did with Barry. Fangio defense was hot, then teams figured out you could pace your way down field and run on it, now it's not.

[{Family Ghost}]

5 hours ago, Uffdaswede said:

I wanted LeFleuer to be great. I thought he would be. I thought AR12 was holding Matt back.

 I thought GameStop was going to keep going up.

I've been nervous about LaFleur for a few years.  I wanted the Packers to move on from Rodgers last year so we could get to figuring out whether Love could play and LaFleur could coach.  Based on this year the jury is definitely out on both.  Lotta ballgame left though.  

[vegas492]

18 hours ago, Mdpackfan22 said:

I think Lafleur is finally fed up with the soft bend don't break style defense 

It is his own fault.

And if we are speaking of being 'fed up", I'm pretty fed up with MLF right now.

[pgwingman]

Possible DC candidate, but I'll need to see his resume first.

[Packerraymond]

54 minutes ago, pgwingman said:

Possible DC candidate, but I'll need to see his resume first.

The game and today's player have passed BB by a long time ago. He'll never be a DC anyway, he'll retire if NE moves on.

[MrBobGray]

22 minutes ago, Packerraymond said:

The game and today's player have passed BB by a long time ago. He'll never be a DC anyway, he'll retire if NE moves on.

Not sure I could go that far.  Yeah he's a terrible GM and has always been strange in how he values players, but the Pats had a top 5 defense two years ago and even last year were 7th in yards, 11th in points.  His career certainly is nearing its conclusion, but I think saying the game passed him by long ago is a big unfair.

[pgwingman]

2 minutes ago, MrBobGray said:

Not sure I could go that far.  Yeah he's a terrible GM and has always been strange in how he values players, but the Pats had a top 5 defense two years ago and even last year were 7th in yards, 11th in points.  His career certainly is nearing its conclusion, but I think saying the game passed him by long ago is a big unfair.

I'd agree. NE has struggled the last few years for the same reason the Packers are struggling this year. It's dang hard to move on from a HOF QB, and it's dang hard to accumulate talent when you draft in the 20s every year.

[incognito_man]

30 minutes ago, MrBobGray said:

Not sure I could go that far.  Yeah he's a terrible GM and has always been strange in how he values players, but the Pats had a top 5 defense two years ago and even last year were 7th in yards, 11th in points.  His career certainly is nearing its conclusion, but I think saying the game passed him by long ago is a big unfair.

He also only knows football. Wouldn't shock me one bit to see him go consultant route. Take 75% of responsibilities off his plate. 

(In a location he wants to semi-retired)

Edited October 19, 2023 by incognito_man

[Packerraymond]

2 hours ago, MrBobGray said:

Not sure I could go that far.  Yeah he's a terrible GM and has always been strange in how he values players, but the Pats had a top 5 defense two years ago and even last year were 7th in yards, 11th in points.  His career certainly is nearing its conclusion, but I think saying the game passed him by long ago is a big unfair.

Certainly wasn't saying Bill doesn't understand ball, just don't think he's a guy today's player wants to play for. Nor is he a guy that has any sort of longevity. Not a candidate for our DC spot.