PackFan13 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Norm said: Also, you're ENTIRE view on this **** is about YOUR feelings ya ******* dunce. Or it's about real things like health and familiarity in scheme impacting play more than your perception on how love impacted him. Literally just your gut feeling, big guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, PackFan13 said: Why would we give credit to Love for making Rodgers play like he did the majority of his career. Sure it pissed him off and I'm sure he used it to motivate himself but the other parts had a far greater impact. Look at Rodgers' career arc. At what point did the 2017-19 seasons look like vintage Rodgers? Aside from the fact that Rodgers didn't throw any interceptions, Rodgers wasn't his usual self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Just now, PackFan13 said: The impact was minuscule. Zomg he is playing great like usual it must have been Jordan Love! 2014: MVP 2015: 2016: 2017: 2019: 2020: Draft Jordan Love 2021: MVP 2022: MVP 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, PackFan13 said: Or it's about real things like health and familiarity in scheme impacting play more than your perception on how love impacted him. I never said it was the primary factor or the main one or however you want to say it. You're arguing with air now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: Look at Rodgers' career arc. At what point did the 2017-19 seasons look like vintage Rodgers? Aside from the fact that Rodgers didn't throw any interceptions, Rodgers wasn't his usual self. 2017: Broken collarbone 2018: He still had Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, and MVS as well as their big FA ticket signing of Jimmy Graham. Little did we know Jimmy Graham was washed up. 2019: Lost Randall Cobb, but still had Adams, MVS, and Graham. He got injured and his play went downhill from there. The Packers protected themselves in case Rodgers' play didn't bounce back. Fortunately, it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 11 hours ago, StatKing said: I wouldn't consider it salvageable just because they made the roster and played a couple snaps. If we had a front office that actually ran like it was in the 21st century instead of being stuck in 1996 guys like Deguara would no longer be on the roster but since we are the Packers and embody the meme that is "draft and develop" we keep guys around who clearly cant play at a high level for 2 years too long. If Dillon is playing at an RB 1B level like he was the prior two years and if Runyan and/or Hanson round into solid starters (as sixth round picks), I'd consider that salvageable. It is not great by any means, but getting 2-3 starters out of a draft prevents it from being a complete failure. Is that the course this draft is on based on the start of this season? No. But it's looking worse right now because they've all somehow taken major steps back (especially Dillon) compared to the end of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, CWood21 said: That's not just QBs. That's all rookie contracts since they introduced the rookie pay scale. Rookie QBs sit their first year more often than not. Do they usually sit 2-3 years? No, but most teams that draft a QB usually don't have their incumbent QB playing at an MVP-level. So at what point during the last 2 years do you feel the Packers should have benched Aaron Rodgers? Most teams don't draft a QB in the first round a year after they signed their incumbent QB to a 4 year deal making him the highest paid player in league history. Edited October 22, 2022 by StatKing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, StatKing said: Most teams don't draft a QB in the first round a year after they signed their incumbent QB to a 4 year deal making him the highest paid player in league history. Wasn't it two years? Edit: two seasons in between. You big fat liar Edited October 22, 2022 by Norm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, StatKing said: we keep guys around who clearly cant play at a high level for 2 years too long. Probably watched Rodgers for two seasons and took your advice and were like ****, it's the 21st century. We better move on before it's too late Edited October 22, 2022 by Norm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 37 minutes ago, StatKing said: Most teams don't draft a QB in the first round a year after they signed their incumbent QB to a 4 year deal making him the highest paid player in league history. They signed Aaron Rodgers to a 4 year extension in August of 2018. They drafted Jordan Love in April of 2020. That's 2 years. Ironically speaking, 2018 and 2019 (the years after his extension but before Love) were two of his worst seasons as a starting QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Norm said: 2014: MVP 2015: 2016: 2017: 2019: 2020: Draft Jordan Love 2021: MVP 2022: MVP 2015: Nelson ACL and TT did nothing. 2016: Rodgers was literally awesome especially during the Run the Table. 2017: Injury 2018: the whole team sucked, MM fired. 2019: first year of MLF system and still got to NFCCG. Just adding some context here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 When Rodgers is criticized, suddenly context becomes important! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, packfanfb said: 2015: Nelson ACL and TT did nothing. 2016: Rodgers was literally awesome especially during the Run the Table. 2017: Injury 2018: the whole team sucked, MM fired. 2019: first year of MLF system and still got to NFCCG. Just adding some context here. They'd rather credit Love than MLF. It's sheer stupidity Rodgers is back to playing poorly because he knows Love has zero chance of replacing him. Edited October 22, 2022 by Maverick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 2 hours ago, packfanfb said: 2015: Nelson ACL and TT did nothing. 2016: Rodgers was literally awesome especially during the Run the Table. 2017: Injury 2018: the whole team sucked, MM fired. 2019: first year of MLF system and still got to NFCCG. Just adding some context here. I put the wrong years anyways lol. I was using the "4 time MVP" thing that him and that one other guy use all the time against them. AR def was not as good those two years before Love though, nobody can argue otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebpackfan Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Norm said: If Love stays here after Aaron and somehow wins a SB, it'll be easily the greatest moment of my life and I'll probably post a picture of my actual bare *** on here. Could be this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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