dll2000 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Way too early as many guys will get resigning/tagged etc. Cavaet - I don't study these guys of course. I don't have time. I do watch a lot of games on condensed view. But without broadcast and replays hard to always know who is doing what. And it is a very quick watch. But I do have some general knowledge of league and I notice things. Probably more than a lot of these beat reporters, tweeters, bloggers and youtubers actually do. Seems like they mostly get their info from PFF or each others articles. Bears need to remake their DL and add to OL. I wouldn't take any top FA over 27 on DL. They start getting injured way too much past that age. OL can last longer. Bears targets: Bears need a new DL - their current one is embarrassing. For record I wanted Bears to sign BJ Hill last offseason, who didn't sign for that much in CIN. He has been a good player for them. There aren't great edge options - there almost never are. But there are some good interior players that may hit market. 1) Daron Payne - go for him first I think if he hits open market. 2) Poona Ford - this guy may be under radar a bit since Seattle doesn't get a lot of media attention, but he is a decent player. 3) Dalvin Tomlison - He's 28 - but I would take him too for right price since he is close to my cut off. 4) A-Shawn Robinson - 28 too. Depends on price. Edge: 1) Only top guy on market that isn't old is Marcus Davenport. Injury prone. Only has 0.5 sacks this year. Still a top talent. You can see him just toss guys out of way on some reps. Had 9 sacks last year. Rolling dice with this guy. Since he is only one on market he may cost too much and make him more risky than Poles is comfortable with. NO fans don't like him which is a big red flag usually. A lot of that is him being hurt and not producing much after they traded a first for him. 2) Arlen Key. Not as talented as Davenport, because Davenport is a lot stronger. But Key has some upside potential still because of his length and speed. Not a lot write home about though in terms of production and probably is close to what he is. OL 1 ) Elton Jenkins Versatile OL for Packers. Would be a huge upgrade at C for us. 2) Orlando Brown, JR. - Wanted him in draft. He has been on record as only wanting to play LT because it was his dad's dying wish or something, but he is better at RT. He was an all-pro level RT at Baltimore. Depends on his price and his attitude. If we could get him at an okay price and get him to play RT that would be ideal. Don't really want him otherwise. Has annoyed coaches wanting his way on things. Still has a stigma as being a bad athlete from draft. He performs though. 3) Conklin - I took him as Bears GM in Forum Wide Draft. Then I pounded table for him when he hit FA first time. He is starting to pile up injuries now and I am not so sure about him anymore. Risky, but I wouldn't hate it for right price. WR WR FA class kinda sucks. Hence the trade for Claypool I guess. 1) Ju-Ju Smith Shuster is only one I see that I like, but he is really just a good number 3 WR in the league. Still legit starting caliber player. 2) DJ Chark - I wanted him this year. But still hasn't shown all that much in Detroit this year, but their QB play is bad too. He is still talented and youngish and produced before. I think he is better than our current journeyman still due to length and speed and past production. 1 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) There are a lot of solid young players that are still ascending in this class. Jakobi Meyers, Charles Omenihu, Dremont Jones, and David Long are 4 guys who I think would be great fits here Elgton Jenkins is a no brainer but I think he'll get overpaid for how good he really is or isn't. I also think he's best at guard Mariota would be a decent back up Taylor Lewan is hurt every 3rd game but if he's cheap enough his personality would be exactly what Poles is looking for on the OL Yannick Ngakoue, Derrick Nnadi and Denzel Perryman might be solid veteran additions on defense I can see them going after Rock Ya Sin as a cheaper CB who knows this defense too Edited December 8, 2022 by beardown3231 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Currently my rankings for FA are... RB Tony Pollard Kareem Hunt Damien Harris Miles Sanders Samaje Perine WR JuJu Smith-Schuster Darius Slayton Mecole Hardman Allen Lazard Jauan Jennings Parris Campbell Ashton Dulin Justin Watson Scottie Miller TE Mike Gesicki Dalton Schultz OL Elgton Jenkins (OL) Terence Steele (OT) Jack Conklin (OT) Garrett Bradbury (C) Ethan Pocic C) Andre Dillard (OT) David Edwards (OG) Dalton Risner (OG) Nate Davis (OG) Cameron Erving (OL) Jawaan Taylor (OL) Cameron Fleming (OL) Dennis Daley (OG) UT Da'Ron Payne Javon Hargrave Zach Allen Dre'Mont Jones Jordan Phillips NT Dalvin Tomlinson A'Shawn Robinson Teair Tart Kevin Strong Jr DE Charles Omenihu Marcus Davenport Dawuane Smoot Dante Fowler Shaq Lawson Rasheem Green Yannick Ngakoue LB Bobby Okereke TJ Edwards Drew Tranquill Germaine Pratt Anthony Walker Leighton Vander Esch Cody Barton Raekwon McMillan Ben Niemann CB Sean Murphy-Bunting Rock Ya-Sin Jamel Dean Greedy Willians Marcus Peters S Jessie Bates III Taylor Rapp Donovan Wilson Juan Thornhill J.T Gray Nasir Adderley Nick Scott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 45 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Currently my rankings for FA are... RB Tony Pollard Kareem Hunt Damien Harris Miles Sanders Samaje Perine WR JuJu Smith-Schuster Darius Slayton Mecole Hardman Allen Lazard Jauan Jennings Parris Campbell Ashton Dulin Justin Watson Scottie Miller TE Mike Gesicki Dalton Schultz OL Elgton Jenkins (OL) Terence Steele (OT) Jack Conklin (OT) Garrett Bradbury (C) Ethan Pocic C) Andre Dillard (OT) David Edwards (OG) Dalton Risner (OG) Nate Davis (OG) Cameron Erving (OL) Jawaan Taylor (OL) Cameron Fleming (OL) Dennis Daley (OG) UT Da'Ron Payne Javon Hargrave Zach Allen Dre'Mont Jones Jordan Phillips NT Dalvin Tomlinson A'Shawn Robinson Teair Tart Kevin Strong Jr DE Charles Omenihu Marcus Davenport Dawuane Smoot Dante Fowler Shaq Lawson Rasheem Green Yannick Ngakoue LB Bobby Okereke TJ Edwards Drew Tranquill Germaine Pratt Anthony Walker Leighton Vander Esch Cody Barton Raekwon McMillan Ben Niemann CB Sean Murphy-Bunting Rock Ya-Sin Jamel Dean Greedy Willians Marcus Peters S Jessie Bates III Taylor Rapp Donovan Wilson Juan Thornhill J.T Gray Nasir Adderley Nick Scott You not even listing Jakobi Meyers in your receivers is something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: You not even listing Jakobi Meyers in your receivers is something Personally I think Meyers is overrated and someone is going to pay him way too much...I left a few good players off the list who I either think are going to be overpaid or who I just don't see as a scheme fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 52 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Personally I think Meyers is overrated and someone is going to pay him way too much...I left a few good players off the list who I either think are going to be overpaid or who I just don't see as a scheme fit. When you have 100M in cap space and a QB on a rookie deal, you almost have to overpay for some guys. I wouldn't be opposed to some of it being on a great route runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: When you have 100M in cap space and a QB on a rookie deal, you almost have to overpay for some guys. I wouldn't be opposed to some of it being on a great route runner I just feel what you would be paying him you could probably pay Darius Slayton half and get just as much production...more importantly more explosive production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I have a dim memory of Derek Carr to the bears being a thing a couple years ago. Glad that didn't go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Payne and Tomlinson would be my priorities.... immediately fixes the interior of the DL..... then draft Anderson to fix one edge spot, and (if draft sims are accurate) get Harrison in round 3-4 as another edge to compete with the people we currently have. Beyond that, I don't really like any of the WR options (maybe chark)..... RB I wouldn't be upset at all gunning for Pollard or Barkley.... but ultimately I believe we keep Monty. OL I admittedly don't know the market well enough to comment, but I want at least 2 new starter capable dudes next year from FA AND THEN drafting at least 2 more. I want OL to be a strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 11 hours ago, RunningVaccs said: I have a dim memory of Derek Carr to the bears being a thing a couple years ago. Glad that didn't go. I remember something about Russell Wilson as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 14 hours ago, Epyon said: (if draft sims are accurate) they are absolutely not correct haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 17 hours ago, Madmike90 said: Personally I think Meyers is overrated and someone is going to pay him way too much...I left a few good players off the list who I either think are going to be overpaid or who I just don't see as a scheme fit. no david long jr on your list is interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, HuskieBear said: no david long jr on your list is interesting I love Long as a player but I think he benefits massively from playing playing behind a quality DL…I also think his size & length would be a worry for this FO & coaching staff…and to top it off I don’t see us being involved at the top end of the LB market given we didn’t want to pay Roquan…I reckon we bring in a vet to tide us over for a few years and draft our own WILL long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Who would be your top 3 signings in order of import? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, dll2000 said: Who would be your top 3 signings in order of import? Payne Jenkins Omenihu Really any of those top 3/4 UTs should be the #1 which then gives you real options come draft time…say you have Payne and draft Carter you interior is elite because you slide Payne to NT…if you draft Anderson to play RE then have Payne at UT…or you trade down for a ton of picks but still have a quality addition at UT…Paynes ability to play UT or NT puts him ahead of the other guys but any of Payne/Hargrave/Allen/Jones gives you at least some flexibility…Hargrave played as a 3-4 NT for long enough…both Allen & Jones have played as edge defenders…best OL in FA then opens you up to drafting the best available OL in the draft at the other spot…Jenkins again gives you real flexibility because he can play OG or OT…even played centre in college but you could sign Bradbury to fix centre then draft a OG or OT…Omenihu is just that big long DE that teams want who can line up outside on early down and inside on passing downs…would be thee guys who give us plenty of options moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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