RaidersAreOne Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Shame to see Perryman go. Spillane is a backup at best, that was probably our worst signing of the bunch IMHO. God dammit man. Making holes just to make holes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: God dammit man. Making holes just to make holes. "Trust the process" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) Nobody can convince me that Perryman wasn't worth keeping, especially at that price. One of two things I am convinced of, if not both: 1. Zeigler is incompetent and negligent and didn't try to at least match or offer a little more. 2. Perryman bailed and didn't want to be here and would rather go to an open and honest rebuild that stick with the drivel we're being fed. This ship is sinking so fast it's exceptional. Edited March 22, 2023 by ronjon1990 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 15 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: my list: TE: Irv Smith, Austin Hooper, Dan Arnold OL: Donovan Smith, Isaiah Wynn, George Fant, Dalton Risner, AJ Cann, Trai Turner, Roger Saffold, Gabe Jackson, Oday Aboushi Edge: Bud Dupree, Robert Quinn, Yannick ,Jadeveon Clowney, Melvin Ingram, Trey Flowers, Dawuane Smoot, Shaq Lawson, Carlos Dunlap, Dante Fowler, Mario Edwards, Rasheem Green, Frank Clark, Justin Houston , Anthony Barr, Leonard floyd, Markus Golden DT: Quinton Jefferson, Shelby Harris, Calais Campbell, Michael Brockers, Matt Ioannidis, Poona Ford, A'Shawn Robinson, Jordan Phillips LB: Myles Jack, Anthony Walker, Kyle Van Noy, Bobby Wagner, Rashaan Evans, Zach Cunninham, Kwon Alexander CB: Rock, Marcus Peters, Byron Jones, Duke Shelley, Shaq Griffin, Eli Apple, Anthony Brown , Fabian Moreau, Levi Wallace William Jackson S: Taylor Rapp, Ryan Neal, Adrian Amos, Terrell Edmunds, Jalen Mills, Duron Harmon, Johnny Johnson , Logan Ryan, Jonathan Owens, Eric Rowe Dalton Risner, 2 of Michael Brockers, Shelby Harris, Poona Ford and Duron Harmon wouldn’t be the worst plan in the world……… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 5 hours ago, NYRaider said: Yuck 😟 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: Nobody can convince me that Perryman wasn't worth keeping, especially at that price. One of two things I am convinced of, if not both: 1. Zeigler is incompetent and negligent and didn't try to at least match or offer a little more. 2. Perryman bailed and didn't want to be here and would rather go to an open and honest rebuild that stick with the drivel we're being fed. This ship is sinking so fast it's exceptional. He was a Gus guy who had 2 years so i Pick option #2 we’re not going anywhere would’ve just wasted his time i don’t blame any player from jumping ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I’m pretty quizzical we didn’t even fork out 3.5 million for Perryman, he’s been a very good player and leader for us. How long have we been without a decent MLB and we get one for two years and let him walk for peanuts. Our off-season needs a better comeback than Lazarus in the draft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Nobody can convince me that Perryman wasn't worth keeping, especially at that price. One of two things I am convinced of, if not both: 1. Zeigler is incompetent and negligent and didn't try to at least match or offer a little more. 2. Perryman bailed and didn't want to be here and would rather go to an open and honest rebuild that stick with the drivel we're being fed. This ship is sinking so fast it's exceptional. Or option 3 he wanted a raise they refused and moved on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Darbsk said: I’m pretty quizzical we didn’t even fork out 3.5 million for Perryman, he’s been a very good player and leader for us. How long have we been without a decent MLB and we get one for two years and let him walk for peanuts. Our off-season needs a better comeback than Lazarus in the draft! You guys think he was only asking for 3.5 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, raidr4life said: You guys think he was only asking for 3.5 mil. He was probably asking for more obviously but the market dictates value and the market said 3.5, I would have given him 2 years for 9 mil easily. It’s not as if he’s a young guy who’s going for a one year prove it deal and then signing a big deal. The market has spoken and that’s his value right now apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Darbsk said: He was probably asking for more obviously but the market dictates value and the market said 3.5, I would have given him 2 years for 9 mil easily. It’s not as if he’s a young guy who’s going for a one year prove it deal and then signing a big deal. The market has spoken and that’s his value right now apparently. Except they probably offered him exactly what they gave Spillane he said no, then the market dried up. Using hindsight when the market dries up just doesn't make much sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 34 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Or option 3 he wanted a raise they refused and moved on. Must be all that cap space tied up at WR.... I call that incompetent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Must be all that cap space tied up at WR.... I call that incompetent. You mean the cap space they got from Waller? They actually gained 4 mil in cap space Edited March 22, 2023 by raidr4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Except they probably offered him exactly what they gave Spillane he said no, then the market dried up. Using hindsight when the market dries up just doesn't make much sense to me. I’m not really sure what you’re getting at…….that’s just making an assumption ……...it’s a negotiation, you don’t just make one offer and that’s it, you talk and should have a very good idea what you need to do before making an offer. Like I said, maybe none actually wanted to be here but usually money talks. If he’s turned down 2 years 9 mil to sign for one year 3.5 at 30+ years of age then that’s head scratching….. maybe we didn’t want him back. Who knows? The only thing we know is he’s a Pro Bowl player who’s played well for us who signed for a lot less than we’ve given Spillane. We just have to hope Spillane is better I guess…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Darbsk said: I’m not really sure what you’re getting at…….that’s just making an assumption ……...it’s a negotiation, you don’t just make one offer and that’s it, you talk and should have a very good idea what you need to do before making an offer. Like I said, maybe none actually wanted to be here but usually money talks. If he’s turned down 2 years 9 mil to sign for one year 3.5 at 30+ years of age then that’s head scratching….. maybe we didn’t want him back. Who knows? The only thing we know is he’s a Pro Bowl player who’s played well for us who signed for a lot less than we’ve given Spillane. We just have to hope Spillane is better I guess…… What's head scratching about it? If you hold out for more then don't get it, the team moves on now you have to take less from another team because free agent money has dried up. It happens all the time. I bet if his agent had started at 3.5 he would have got signed immediately. We had a lot of cap space and these agents wanted to capitalize. Edited March 22, 2023 by raidr4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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