minutemancl Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Am I crazy for thinking Nuk just isn't that good anymore? He's 31 years old and hasn't produced in 2 years. I wouldn't trade for him. His cap number this year is like $30 million for the Cardinals. How much would an acquiring team take on? And then you have to give up draft assets too? Nah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Am I crazy for thinking Nuk just isn't that good anymore? He's 31 years old and hasn't produced in 2 years. I wouldn't trade for him. His cap number this year is like $30 million for the Cardinals. How much would an acquiring team take on? And then you have to give up draft assets too? Nah. He was hurt last year and suspended this year. Yards/game he ranked 10. Giants would take on about $20M, but he wants a new deal anyway. I agree it isn’t the best decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Rather start fresh with our own drafted WR or bid on one of the younger FA targets like JuJu, Hardman, Campbell and keep the draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Could Giants QB Daniel Jones be seeking $45M or more annually? (msn.com) Quote Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk reports that Jones is “possibly” seeking significantly more than originally anticipated — an astronomical $45 million annually or more. So what does Jones want? There are two possibilities. One, he’s willing to do a deal for less than CAA was willing to accept. Two, he wants more than CAA was able to get. As one source explained it, it’s the latter. Jones wants more than the Giants have offered. Possibly as much as $45 million per year, or more. Granted it's Florio and "possibly" seeking but if this is true... where you at on this? 35-38 is my cutoff. If $45 million is a hard number for him then tag and trade or let him walk. Tyrod can run the offense for one season and get our guy in the next draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 33 minutes ago, Shockwave said: Could Giants QB Daniel Jones be seeking $45M or more annually? (msn.com) Granted it's Florio and "possibly" seeking but if this is true... where you at on this? 35-38 is my cutoff. If $45 million is a hard number for him then tag and trade or let him walk. Tyrod can run the offense for one season and get our guy in the next draft. It’s all bargaining through sources. They’ll come to the middle agreement. If somehow he is stuck on that, we franchise him and restructure Leonard and Adoree. Nagler’s words are “lotta ballgame left”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w4rrior723 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Shockwave said: Could Giants QB Daniel Jones be seeking $45M or more annually? (msn.com) Granted it's Florio and "possibly" seeking but if this is true... where you at on this? 35-38 is my cutoff. If $45 million is a hard number for him then tag and trade or let him walk. Tyrod can run the offense for one season and get our guy in the next draft. I'm the same as you on this. I'm high on DJ the ability and leadership he displayed this season. But the lack of strong TD and yardage numbers rightfully keeps him from $40m/year. I can't imagine anyone giving him $40m+ that this point in his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 Giants and Jones haven’t talked in weeks due to Jones wanting to switch agents. Not sure why this information about a bigger deal is coming now. https://twitter.com/mikegarafolo/status/1627763864409460745?s=46&t=IxtldMyyio0bg3Y3BiLHYg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Quote According to ESPN's Jeff Darlington on Tuesday's Get Up, sources have indicated that the Giants plan to work on long-term contract extensions with both Jones and Barkley leading up to the March 7 deadline for teams to use their franchise tags. Darlington noted the Giants are going "back to square one" with Jones in terms of negotiations since he recently changed agents, but he added that it "doesn't mean that anything's going bad with the negotiation." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10066344-nfl-rumors-giants-dont-want-to-use-franchise-tag-on-daniel-jones-saquon-barkley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Rumors from the Super Bowl are that the Giants are going to walk away from Saquon. As much as I like him, that is the prudent move, especially if he wants around $16 million a year. This free agent RB class is stacked, as is this upcoming draft class. It is very much a team-favored RB market right now. You can replicate his production for much less money than you'll have to pay him. I'd take the $12.5 million AAV I offered him, tell him good luck, and that the offer will still be there if he doesn't get what he's looking for on the open market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 48 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Rumors from the Super Bowl are that the Giants are going to walk away from Saquon. As much as I like him, that is the prudent move, especially if he wants around $16 million a year. This free agent RB class is stacked, as is this upcoming draft class. It is very much a team-favored RB market right now. You can replicate his production for much less money than you'll have to pay him. I'd take the $12.5 million AAV I offered him, tell him good luck, and that the offer will still be there if he doesn't get what he's looking for on the open market. What’s the source of these rumors? I saw something from Billy Spikes, but of course I couldn’t trace it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Yea 12.5 is fair value. Puts him in that Cook/Henry/Mixon/Jones tier. Only three guys make more then that and although I love SB and hope he resigns he just isn't worth that much. And TBH neither is CMC, Kamara, and Zeke. What team would even pay him 16M? Chicago/Atlanta maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, Acgott said: What’s the source of these rumors? I saw something from Billy Spikes, but of course I couldn’t trace it back. Sam and Steve from PFF mentioned on one of their podcasts that they talked to people at the Super Bowl and that was what they said. Billy Spikes also sourced a Paul Schwartz article from Saturday that said Saquon was 'likely' to reach the open market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 hours ago, minutemancl said: Sam and Steve from PFF mentioned on one of their podcasts that they talked to people at the Super Bowl and that was what they said. Billy Spikes also sourced a Paul Schwartz article from Saturday that said Saquon was 'likely' to reach the open market. I couldn’t find it in the article, though I know the beat has mentioned it as possibility. https://nypost.com/2023/02/18/saquon-barkley-decision-looms-over-giants-offseason-plans/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=twitter_app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I wouldn't have any issue with the team trading to get a legit receiver using our first rounder to do it. Not sure I'm willing to wait to develop a receiver at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just ran a mock draft with the PFF simulator. I came away with Joey Porter Jr, Jalin Hyatt, Drew Sanders, Tyjae Spears, Andrew Vorhees, Juice Scruggs, and Mohamed Ibrahim in my first few picks. That's 4 instant starters (Porter Jr at CB2, Spears at RB1 [assuming Barkley leaves], Vorhees at LG, and Scruggs at C), 2 high potential developmental guys who would be role players year 1 (Sanders at LB and Hyatt at WR), and a talented depth piece (Ibrahim). Hyatt would replace Slayton, but he needs to learn to run actual routes. His speed is undeniable though. The draft won't turn out that way, but I'd be pretty happy if it did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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