TankWilliams Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 37 minutes ago, Ty21 said: I do have to say, I’m happy we for once are the team gaining assets in a trade down instead of the usual of getting fleeced to desperately move up. Weird feeling isn't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, TankWilliams said: Weird feeling isn't it I won’t confuse it for competence until they create a winning culture. I’ve been burned too many times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Thoughts for today: -I've soured heavily on Gibbs as my ideal target. Why? (it should timestamp to the stats but 5:59 if it didn't link right) Basically stats I wasn't fully aware of..... His usage was much more heavily limited which isn't a problem in itself per se, but I'm not nearly as high on Herbert as I think most people are. The real stats that worry me are the ones on screen at 5:59 Much of this could theoretically be attributed to Bama's OL being relatively bad this year, but it's enough to give me pause. Converting 1st downs at half the rate Robinson did, getting outright STUFFED at 3x the rate.... It's pretty damning stats. Even his receiving for .5 yards lower per completion/attempt and 17% lower (Broken/Missed tackles)/attempt rate....... I am however, now -=much more interested=- in Robinson than I was before. -Regarding JSN.... I'm not opposed to it.... Claypool and Velus are both worth nothing to me until proven otherwise. That leaves Mooney as the big reason you might not get JSN... and I'm going to be real here.... Mooney is overrated around these parts right now. On his current trajectory, I'm not even sure I extend him. I love the guy, and I find it hilarious that he's our lightest WR and probably the best blocker on the entire team other than a healthy Tevan Jenkins, but he's been a let down lately. Hopefully getting a true #1 in Moore will get him back into the more productive column again. -That all said, there's an argument to be made that landing Moore via trade doesn't negate the need to draft a WR generally, but does make JSN specifically kind of irrelevant. I've been saying for a while that I actually had Hyatt as my top WR this draft, but that he was a relatively poor fit for us because he's a "home run hitter", and we needed someone who was "getting on base"....... Welp.... Moore is the guy who can get on base, so I think Hyatt jumped back up my wishlist as the complimentary piece. Not that it matters as we have zero picks in any range he's projected to go right now. Zay Flowers being another guy I think being a stronger consideration than JSN, but again that is likely not in our draft windows barring more trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I could’ve gone without learning DJ Moore is short for Denniston Moore Jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Denniston 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Romen Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ty21 said: Denniston His name was Denniston Moore Jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 10 hours ago, G08 said: This is an incredibly deep EDGE class, we can find quality players with both picks in round 2. We can address iOL in rounds 3+ I wouldn't hate it... FWIW, EDGE usually go off the board earlier than they're projected to go. I'd anticipate at least 2 EDGE off the board before the Bears' pick at 9. My guess is Will Anderson goes off the board at 3 to Arizona, and you probably see Tyree Wilson off the board somewhere in that 5-8 range. I wouldn't get my hopes that a quality EDGE is sitting there at 54. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Everything I have read so far says Moore is not only a great player but also and excellent team mate…the idea of having a WR with him but with zero baggage is something we have simply never seen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 9 hours ago, CWood21 said: FWIW, EDGE usually go off the board earlier than they're projected to go. I'd anticipate at least 2 EDGE off the board before the Bears' pick at 9. My guess is Will Anderson goes off the board at 3 to Arizona, and you probably see Tyree Wilson off the board somewhere in that 5-8 range. I wouldn't get my hopes that a quality EDGE is sitting there at 54. I think it goes 3-4 rounds deep, honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, G08 said: I think it goes 3-4 rounds deep, honestly. I had the same opinion a few years ago, but the reality is that it isn't likely. From the 2021 draft, there were 8 guys with 8 sacks (4 sacks per year) and only one of them was drafted after the 45th pick (Azeez Ojulari at 50). From the 2020 draft, only 4 players have averaged at least 4 sacks per season and 2 of them were after the 4th pick. From the 2019 draft, only 11 players had 16+ sacks and only 2 (Maxx Crosby and Dre'Mont Jones) were picked after the 45th pick. Expecting to get a good EDGE that late is unlikely, but not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Saw this and it made me think…they owe us one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Saw this and it made me think…they owe us one. Hopefully we are no longer where receivers go to die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dll2000 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 55 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Saw this and it made me think…they owe us one. Where would that rank on Bears LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkwdw13 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, dll2000 said: Where would that rank on Bears LOL. Not 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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