kgarrett12486 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 19 hours ago, mtmmike said: Why is obj on 4th team? Question 2 how many teams has geno played 4? How many of you trade Mayfield and his contract straight up for Daniel Jones and his contract? Prediction all the haters hide. 1. Because of his personality, contract and injury history 2. Multiple teams as a career journeyman until (1) season of showing anything of relevance 3. I wouldn't want to hand either one of them a long-term deal What was the point here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 11:50 AM, mtmmike said: 4 million 3rd wide receiver money. Weren't you the one saying he's only gonna get '3rd WR' money; much less than Mayfield. I wouldn't be so sure of that: ESPN's Rich Cimini reports free agent Odell Beckham is "thought to be seeking" $15 million for a one-year deal. Cimini does believe $10-$12 million may be attainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 4 hours ago, kgarrett12486 said: Weren't you the one saying he's only gonna get '3rd WR' money; much less than Mayfield. I wouldn't be so sure of that: ESPN's Rich Cimini reports free agent Odell Beckham is "thought to be seeking" $15 million for a one-year deal. Cimini does believe $10-$12 million may be attainable. Dude till you Answer all my questions stop posting I can due without your insults. Obj got like 700 yards when he was on the field playing for a vet minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 5 hours ago, kgarrett12486 said: 1. Because of his personality, contract and injury history 2. Multiple teams as a career journeyman until (1) season of showing anything yof relevance 3. I wouldn't want to hand either one of them a long-term deal What was the point here? Yes or no no in between Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Yes or no no in between You literally can in no way answer the questions you just asked with a yes/no lol. Seriously, how can you not see that. It's mind boggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Obj got like 700 yards when he was on the field playing for a vet minimum And Mayfield had an under 60% completion percentage in what is considered his best year as a pro. Again what's your point here? There is obviously iunterest out there in OBJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedandPewterReturns Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, kgarrett12486 said: And Mayfield had an under 60% completion percentage in what is considered his best year as a pro. Again what's your point here? There is obviously iunterest out there in OBJ. lol both valid points. But frankly this has to stop. The interest in Odell is similar to Baker - both wanted at salaries that a minimal. Baker signed his deal at the rate he should sign at for a prove it deal. Odell thinks he's worth 15MM . He's not anymore given injury and inconsistent character concerns. That is why Baker is signed and Odell isn't. If Odell ever accepts what teams value him at right now - he'll land on a team. But no one is taking that risk of giving him over 10MM a year for multiple seasons. Edited April 3, 2023 by RedandPewterReturns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 16 hours ago, RedandPewterReturns said: lol both valid points. But frankly this has to stop. The interest in Odell is similar to Baker - both wanted at salaries that a minimal. Baker signed his deal at the rate he should sign at for a prove it deal. Odell thinks he's worth 15MM . He's not anymore given injury and inconsistent character concerns. That is why Baker is signed and Odell isn't. If Odell ever accepts what teams value him at right now - he'll land on a team. But no one is taking that risk of giving him over 10MM a year for multiple seasons. I'm not disagreeing at all. Honestly, I think Baker is a back-up level QB and OBJ like you said, has kind of derailed his once prmosing career with his attitude and injuries. At this point, neither are worth more than a 1 year gamble. I actually think trying to compare them to each other makes no sense since they play completely different positions which have completely different relevance/importance in the NFL, but I'm not the person who keeps bringing them up together (not you either), I'm just entertaining the game with said person because the thought process being conveyed makes little to no sense. At the end of the day I think OBJ gets a deal similar, or possibly a little more than Baker. A 1 year 8-10 million prove it deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio reports the Patriots have shopped Mac Jones to several teams. A full list of potential suitors for Jones isn't yet know. Florio said the Patriots have talked with the Raiders, Texans, Buccaneers, and Commanders about Jones this offseason, and that a trade could still happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, kgarrett12486 said: Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio reports the Patriots have shopped Mac Jones to several teams. A full list of potential suitors for Jones isn't yet know. Florio said the Patriots have talked with the Raiders, Texans, Buccaneers, and Commanders about Jones this offseason, and that a trade could still happen. yikes I sure hope we arent throwing away any good picks for Mac freakin Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 hours ago, BucsDraftGeek47 said: yikes I sure hope we arent throwing away any good picks for Mac freakin Jones Same here. I kind of think this 'discussion' may have taken place early in the off-season and then we pivoted to Mayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedandPewterReturns Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 On 4/4/2023 at 1:39 PM, kgarrett12486 said: Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio reports the Patriots have shopped Mac Jones to several teams. A full list of potential suitors for Jones isn't yet know. Florio said the Patriots have talked with the Raiders, Texans, Buccaneers, and Commanders about Jones this offseason, and that a trade could still happen. I am more happy we signed Baker at 4 million with incentives for a year than to take on the no upside noodle arm Jones for a first round pick. It's bad news when you're shopping Jones already after 2 years even with one of them was with him having Matt Patricia as his OC lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, RedandPewterReturns said: I am more happy we signed Baker at 4 million with incentives for a year than to take on the no upside noodle arm Jones for a first round pick. It's bad news when you're shopping Jones already after 2 years even with one of them was with him having Matt Patricia as his OC lol It's more of a BB ego issue if you read the piece. He pist off Bill by going outside the organization for advice and disagreeing with the offensive philosophy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedandPewterReturns Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, kgarrett12486 said: It's more of a BB ego issue if you read the piece. He pist off Bill by going outside the organization for advice and disagreeing with the offensive philosophy. Ego issue or not - Mac Jones is not a guy I'd trade a first round pick for. No upside there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 37 minutes ago, RedandPewterReturns said: Ego issue or not - Mac Jones is not a guy I'd trade a first round pick for. No upside there. 100% agree there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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