NYRaider Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dessie said: You definitely don’t know ball after pumping Jimmy G all off season lol Jimmy G was a baller in SF, went to the Super Bowl and an NFC championship. Hard to win or ball with mediocre coaches like JMD and AP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Jimmy G was a baller in SF, went to the Super Bowl and an NFC championship. Hard to win or ball with mediocre coaches like JMD and AP. Yawn you said he was a winner all off season and he fell flat on his face, keep pumping him though looks good lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Dessie said: Yawn you said he was a winner all off season and he fell flat on his face, keep pumping him though looks good lol Jimmy for his career: 43-20 (68%) Carr for his career: 70-86 (44%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 He definitely hasn’t won here lol, another great evaluation by you, like Ferrell. #suckforspencer lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 The issues with Ferrell were not fixable early on. He probably always be an average to above average player. He’s not bad but doesn’t have elite physical tools. Not the type of DE to be selected #4. Wilsons issues are coachable and should get better over time with development. He’s seems coachable too. The things that can’t be coached are natural skills. Once the football aspects click and combined with physical tools , we are going to have a good player on the defense. This is how good defenses are built to last. Ravens, Steelers, 49ers, Patriots always seem to have good defenses. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersForever Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 We can debate whether or not Wilson should have been the pick, that's totally fair -- but next season will be the time to judge Wilson as a player, not this season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyRaider Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) I'm willing to give dude time, but I ain't counting on him at all. The warning signs were there for all to see pre-draft. He had surgery, played against suspect competition in college, and his production still wasn't where you'd want an elite level talent to be. Raiders were enamored with his freakish size and length and ignored all the warning signs. He still has the worst get off I've ever seen which still has to be worked on all off season, he lacks almost all the classic pass rush moves you'd expect from an elite level prospect playing the edge. He's got A TON to work on. People here I've noticed compare him to Ferrell but he ain't at Clelin's level. Clelin's get off was never that bad, and he had at least a few moves to try to get to the QB. Tyree has almost none except a bull rush which doesn't work. Clelin also produced in college against elite level competition. Something Tyree never saw. Then on top of it, he had a second surgery on the same foot. I don't know what the future holds for Tyree. I do know from what I've seen of him so far, it don't look good. This is going to be one hell of a test in regards to our patience as fans. Edited December 21, 2023 by PhillyRaider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 On 12/18/2023 at 3:34 PM, Darbsk said: “he'll learn the pass rush moves but you can't deny the power, speed and strength which aren't teachable.” I can and will deny the speed 😁 Sure, he may be fast in shorts on a track but in pads with a guy in front of him he’s positively pedestrian and that’s his problem. No explosion or agility or nuance. Hopefully he can improve all those traits but he’s far from an impact player at the moment. Obviously, we hope he improves but his best games are forgettable with an odd flash here or there. Also, his power is not what it should be given his raw strength as he plays too upright and slow. If he can accelerate and leverage then the power will be evident, Maxx should be the perfect example of how it’s done. Wilson needs those shoes that make you walk on your calves. It's a toe raised at an angle. I remember them in volleyball. Also Willie Roaf walked on this toes like that. I tried that at Disneyland when I was in high school and it was difficult and a good soreness the next week. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 4/27/2023 at 7:43 PM, NCOUGHMAN said: Pray to god we kick him inside imo that’s his best position 3-4 de or dt/nt but dam tho And god said we shall kicketh sir Wilson inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 6 pressures and 2 hits. Even coming off the foot injury he's cooking inside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justwinning Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 We are starting to see our DL blossom 😢 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidersrule Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Wilson needs to stay inside he has the power and the length and keep Koonce on one side 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderlife24 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, Raidersrule said: Wilson needs to stay inside he has the power and the length and keep Koonce on one side I agree. He has been better in the inside. He still gets to develop with playing time and we keep Koonce who has been playing good lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonGruber Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: 6 pressures and 2 hits. Even coming off the foot injury he's cooking inside. ESPN Boxscore doesn’t have Wilson with any qb hits 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, SimonGruber said: ESPN Boxscore doesn’t have Wilson with any qb hits 🤔 All good I saw him with some pressures yesterday. The most important thing is for him to get bigger and develop more moves inside. A swim, rip, etc. A few of those with his length/power combo and he'll be a monster anywhere on the DL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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