2023 NFL Draft: Day 2 Discussion

[wcblack34]

1 minute ago, swede700 said:

Apparently, it's part of a trend that teams don't want to make the same mistake that the Packers did in drafting Love, as they don't view him as one of the elite QBs, so they don't want to give up valuable 2nd/3rd rd picks to move back into the 1st to get him when the return for doing so really isn't that much different than taking him in the 2nd.

But would it really take much more to trade to 31 than 32?

[swede700]

3 minutes ago, wcblack34 said:

But would it really take much more to trade to 31 than 32?

Maybe not, but the salary difference can be significant. 

[swede700]

13 minutes ago, gopherwrestler said:

I don’t see why basically a starting CB would be a luxury? 

Branch isn't a starting CB.  He's a safety, and it's far more likely that Murphy will be starting in the slot.

[SteelKing728]

2 hours ago, swede700 said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/draft2023/insider/story/_/id/36298711/2023-nfl-draft-best-worst-round-1-picks-trades-quarterbacks-remaining-players

This probably wouldn't actually surprise me. 

How do you get past the paywall without paying? lol

[JDBrocks]

Can't find it now, but it sounds like Siaki Ika received some bad medicals... I really liked his game, what a shame.

[VikeManDan]

For those bored and wanting to sim scenarios this will populate round 1.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft/

[SemperFeist]

1 hour ago, wcblack34 said:

Gross.

Will Levi’s was +400 to go top 5. It’s all made up b

[SemperFeist]

1 hour ago, SteelKing728 said:

How do you get past the paywall without paying? lol

You don’t. 

[Boda]

2 hours ago, swede700 said:

You just have more optimism than I do.  I certainly don't argue that Flores won't scheme better, because he can't be worse, but like I said earlier, you can't make chicken soup out of chicken poop.  And I'm not very optimistic about the talent on defense, at least for 2023.  The proven talent left in the free agent market is old and over-priced on the DL or middle-aged and uninspiring at CB. 

Didnt Mike Zimmer do that in his 1st year?

[SemperFeist]

Just now, Boda said:

Didnt Mike Zimmer do that in his 1st year?

Went from 32nd in scoring to 11th in scoring. With 8/11 starters that were on the roster the year prior. 

 

[Boda]

1 minute ago, SemperFeist said:

Went from 32nd in scoring to 11th in scoring. With 8/11 starters that were on the roster the year prior. 

 

So thats a yes? 😄

[PrplChilPill]

1 minute ago, Boda said:

So thats a yes? 😄

Outside the Smiths and Hunter, are there any players you are confident (adding Cine should help the S) can take it to the next level with a better scheme? 

[Boda]

1 minute ago, PrplChilPill said:

Outside the Smiths and Hunter, are there any players you are confident (adding Cine should help the S) can take it to the next level with a better scheme? 

Honestly yes,  Booth is a guy that sticks out to me mainly because I was so high on him last year and I think the scheme will be more beneficial but his biggest hurdle is going to be staying healthy.  I also wouldn't count out Asamoah but I guess that all depends what you mean by taking it to the next level

[JDBrocks]

4 minutes ago, PrplChilPill said:

Outside the Smiths and Hunter, are there any players you are confident (adding Cine should help the S) can take it to the next level with a better scheme? 

I expect Murphy to help a lot - very high on him. I also expect the ILBs to look much better because Jordan Hicks theoretically won't be trying to cover pass catching backs on wheel routes.

The amount of time that Hunter, Z Smith, Hicks, and Kendricks spent in coverage last year was unacceptable. Hicks was actually really good at the LOS, and Asamoah should be better in coverage than Kendricks.

I really like the pass rush rotation that they have with Hunter, Z Smith (if he stays) Davenport, Wonnum, and PJ2. Even if Z leaves, that's a very capable group. 

Tonga was a bright spot on the DL, and Lowry and Phillips are pretty good. Depth there is still an issue.

Adding CBs and DL (5T or 1T) the rest of the way is crucial, but I think that a scheme change can and will maximize the defensive talent on the roster. 

[PrplChilPill]

Just now, JDBrocks said:

I expect Murphy to help a lot - very high on him. I also expect the ILBs to look much better because Jordan Hicks theoretically won't be trying to cover pass catching backs on wheel routes.

The amount of time that Hunter, Z Smith, Hicks, and Kendricks spent in coverage last year was unacceptable. Hicks was actually really good at the LOS, and Asamoah should be better in coverage than Kendricks.

I really like the pass rush rotation that they have with Hunter, Z Smith (if he stays) Davenport, Wonnum, and PJ2. Even if Z leaves, that's a very capable group. 

Tonga was a bright spot on the DL, and Lowry and Phillips are pretty good. Depth there is still an issue.

Adding CBs and DL (5T or 1T) the rest of the way is crucial, but I think that a scheme change can and will maximize the defensive talent on the roster. 

I agree with all this. I think PJ2 needs to play more, and I'm 100% hoping those three "never" cover anyone again.